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<blockquote data-quote="Admiral Caine" data-source="post: 4900734" data-attributes="member: 60438"><p>My group used the Beta, and often they didn't check the spell descriptions. We're converting to Final Core, and I'm going to remind them to read their spells again. There's a lot of small changes in there.</p><p> </p><p>Mirror Image has been changed since Beta. Yet I found out no one had actually looked at the spell description for months and months.</p><p> </p><p>Dispel Magic has been changed since Beta to Core. The 3rd level version no longer has an area effect, but the Greater Dispel Magic at 6th level does.</p><p> </p><p>There are subtle changes everywhere. Most people noticed the Spiked Chain Alteration and that Clerics no longer get Heavy Armor Proficiency.. but thse don't jump out and smack you in the face.</p><p> </p><p>There are really subtle ones like magical masks, which were part of the eye slot and are now part of the head slot.</p><p> </p><p>BTW- I am really pleased that they cleaned up and consolidated the magic item slots... I had a player who joined my existing game and I allowed him some appropriate level magic items to start. He purchased a Hat of Disguise and a Circlet. However he was surprised when I said he couldn't wear both at the same time. I thought (and still do) that would be obvious. However, in the player's defense, he pointed to the 3.5 books and showed me all the items that occupy the hat, head, brow, and crown slots. While I don't think I would have made that mistake myself, I had to concede that that it was potentially clear as mud. Pathfinder consolidates the slots clearly, and also defines all the 3.5 slots into Pathfinder slots, which is helpful for conversion of old material.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Admiral Caine, post: 4900734, member: 60438"] My group used the Beta, and often they didn't check the spell descriptions. We're converting to Final Core, and I'm going to remind them to read their spells again. There's a lot of small changes in there. Mirror Image has been changed since Beta. Yet I found out no one had actually looked at the spell description for months and months. Dispel Magic has been changed since Beta to Core. The 3rd level version no longer has an area effect, but the Greater Dispel Magic at 6th level does. There are subtle changes everywhere. Most people noticed the Spiked Chain Alteration and that Clerics no longer get Heavy Armor Proficiency.. but thse don't jump out and smack you in the face. There are really subtle ones like magical masks, which were part of the eye slot and are now part of the head slot. BTW- I am really pleased that they cleaned up and consolidated the magic item slots... I had a player who joined my existing game and I allowed him some appropriate level magic items to start. He purchased a Hat of Disguise and a Circlet. However he was surprised when I said he couldn't wear both at the same time. I thought (and still do) that would be obvious. However, in the player's defense, he pointed to the 3.5 books and showed me all the items that occupy the hat, head, brow, and crown slots. While I don't think I would have made that mistake myself, I had to concede that that it was potentially clear as mud. Pathfinder consolidates the slots clearly, and also defines all the 3.5 slots into Pathfinder slots, which is helpful for conversion of old material. [/QUOTE]
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