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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2959576" data-attributes="member: 19675">That Wall of Stone- a Druidic Earth Creation spell- requires a connection to real earth of some kind just reinforces my earliest point- the flavor text of the spell implies what should have&nbsp; made explicit in the rules text.Summoning an earth elemental is not creating earth out of nothing, it is connecting to the elemental plane of earth to call forth one of its living denizens.&nbsp; You're still explicitly connecting to earth- here, the elemental plane of it.In comparison, the language of this spell doesn't say it creates the spike out of nothing- it &quot;grows from the ground.&quot;&nbsp; Were it actually creating the spike ex nihilo, it should read something like &quot;...a spike of earth appears in the target hex, impaling any creature in the hex, up to 10' above it...&quot;So I'll restate: find a Druidic Earth Creation spell that creates earth ex nihilo- out of nothing without requiring some kind of connection to earth- and you'll start to move me from my position.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2959576, member: 19675"] That Wall of Stone- a Druidic Earth Creation spell- requires a connection to real earth of some kind just reinforces my earliest point- the flavor text of the spell implies what should have made explicit in the rules text. Summoning an earth elemental is not creating earth out of nothing, it is connecting to the elemental plane of earth to call forth one of its living denizens. You're still explicitly connecting to earth- here, the elemental plane of it. In comparison, the language of this spell doesn't say it creates the spike out of nothing- it "grows from the ground." Were it actually creating the spike ex nihilo, it should read something like "...a spike of earth appears in the target hex, impaling any creature in the hex, up to 10' above it..." So I'll restate: find a Druidic Earth Creation spell that creates earth ex nihilo- out of nothing without requiring some kind of connection to earth- and you'll start to move me from my position. [/QUOTE]

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