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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 1964195" data-attributes="member: 3929">I would treat it in every way like Invisibility. Meaning that if you decided to run for it, your invis would last until the beginning of your next turn, when you could do it again. But if you attacked, then you would become visible. Still, you'd have your extra damage dice and a +2 to hit for being invisible. So, no, you wouldn't get Sudden Strike damage for your iterative attacks.  You would get it when you want it X number of times per day though, which is in some ways better than the hoops the rogue has to jump through.I agree, and think they are more of an NPC class. This is generally the case with classes that survive on being virtually undetectible or classes like Deepwood Sniper (MotW) that rely on starting fights at extreme distance. When you have a clunky party of PCs, they won't be stealthy, and when you're outdoors, fights will start at or around 100 yards... about 2 rounds worth of shooting for the sniper, and then he's in trouble.</blockquote>