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<blockquote data-quote="Silverglass" data-source="post: 1579158" data-attributes="member: 14071"><p>It all depends on what you want the ECL adjustment to turn out to be.</p><p></p><p>If you want to limit it to a +2 then 1 Giant HD and an LA of +1 gives you that.</p><p></p><p>So a 1st Level Half-Ogre fighter (ECL3) would have 1d8+1d10+CON hit points. With the raised CON bonus I suggested that will probably mean at least 1d8+1d10+6 which is not too bad for a 3rd level fighter.</p><p></p><p>The +6 STR is a big issue, it is very overpowering. If you really want to keep it I would say you must be going for a 1HD and +1 LA as a minimum.</p><p></p><p>How about this as a compromise:</p><p></p><p>+6 Strength, –2 Dexterity, +2 Constitution, –4 Intelligence, –2 Charisma.</p><p>Darkvision out to 60 feet.</p><p>Racial Hit Dice: An half-ogre begins with one level of giant, which provide 1d8 Hit Dice, a base attack bonus of +1, and base saving throw bonuses of Fort +2, Ref +0, and Will +0. </p><p>Racial Skills: An half-ogre’s giant level gives it skill points equal to 4 x (2 + Int modifier, minimum 1). Its class skills are Climb, Listen, and Spot. (this is a nice penalty as the bonus skill points are forced into such a limited set).</p><p>Racial Feats: An half-ogre’s giant levels give it one feat.</p><p>Weapon and Armor Proficiency: An half-ogre is automatically proficient with simple weapons, martial weapons, light and medium armor, and shields.</p><p>+2 natural armor bonus.</p><p>Favored Class: Barbarian.</p><p>Level adjustment +1.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silverglass, post: 1579158, member: 14071"] It all depends on what you want the ECL adjustment to turn out to be. If you want to limit it to a +2 then 1 Giant HD and an LA of +1 gives you that. So a 1st Level Half-Ogre fighter (ECL3) would have 1d8+1d10+CON hit points. With the raised CON bonus I suggested that will probably mean at least 1d8+1d10+6 which is not too bad for a 3rd level fighter. The +6 STR is a big issue, it is very overpowering. If you really want to keep it I would say you must be going for a 1HD and +1 LA as a minimum. How about this as a compromise: +6 Strength, –2 Dexterity, +2 Constitution, –4 Intelligence, –2 Charisma. Darkvision out to 60 feet. Racial Hit Dice: An half-ogre begins with one level of giant, which provide 1d8 Hit Dice, a base attack bonus of +1, and base saving throw bonuses of Fort +2, Ref +0, and Will +0. Racial Skills: An half-ogre’s giant level gives it skill points equal to 4 x (2 + Int modifier, minimum 1). Its class skills are Climb, Listen, and Spot. (this is a nice penalty as the bonus skill points are forced into such a limited set). Racial Feats: An half-ogre’s giant levels give it one feat. Weapon and Armor Proficiency: An half-ogre is automatically proficient with simple weapons, martial weapons, light and medium armor, and shields. +2 natural armor bonus. Favored Class: Barbarian. Level adjustment +1. [/QUOTE]
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