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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Loonook" data-source="post: 5914478" data-attributes="member: 1861">Your assumptions set the following:Your minstrel is outside of the Elite Array.Your Minstrel is able to take 10 on a check with the lyre.Your overall costs for construction are ALL in labor.Your 'man day' costs are incorrectGenerally all of your math is off.For 100 laborers, if we split is as suggested (1/2 skilled, 1/2 unskilled) would make a day's work:(50*.1GP) + (50*.3GP): 20 GP/day.  So a LoB gives 120 GP/hr in labor.The average building site per SBG has 30% of its costs in labor.  To whit, the SBG lists under Lyre of Building:If we take into account the building of a basic Residential Cluster (12000 GP base).  That means we need to expend 4000 GP on labor alone, and the overall build time is 1 week.If we have one week worth of labor we are looking at all labor... If we go with the above (20GP worth of labor/100 skilled men per day) there is a LOT more labor that is being performed, materials being moved, masons cutting stone, lumbermen hewing timber... There Lyre covers your building cost, but doesn't really do too much more <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.The thing is that rather than breaking down costs in the format you desire, into a hard GP instance, the device's effects have been codified to actually just help a builder build, and provide a little 'oomph' to save labor costs and get things done.But why would the minstrel not spend 8 hrs/week playing the instrument?The record in the Guiness Book for longest continual guitar session is 114 hours... However, in the video evidence I can not find a single chord change... just thunk a thunk a thunk a thunk on a single set of notes.  No 'playing' involved, just 'hold your hand here and strum here'. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvq8lO8OzMI]World Record Guinness Playing Guitar - YouTube[/ame][ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bwYTXyyU-Y]Dave Browne - world record guitar player at Temple Bar Dublin March 3 2012 - YouTube[/ame]Now the longest guitar solo (i.e. actual playing of the instrument <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />) sems to be traced to this <a href="http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/16/austin-guitarist-breaks-record-for-worlds-longest-guitar-solo/" target="_blank">guy right here</a>.  It actually happened two days ago!  According to the <a href="http://www2.richmond.com/entertainment/2012/may/15/ex-richmonder-sets-record-longest-guitar-solo-ar-1916040/" target="_blank">articles</a> I have tracked down on <a href="http://austinist.com/2012/05/16/two_austinites_break_world_records.php" target="_blank">the guy</a>, he was allowed a five minute break every hour to 'maintain sanity'.So every hour, he killed his poor Guitar of Building.  The people of Austin will have to hang their head in shame, their awesomely trendy Tower of Power (Chords) will wait another week <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.I can personally play for around two hours continually without tiring too badly... but I will also have the occasional wrong note, even when focused on not doing so.  I personally am no great musician, but I have busked and can tell ya that after a few hours your mind will wander, and playing the same song repetitively for an hour can become... Tiresome.  So let us assume we have a man with the constitution of Superman and the lyre prowess of a 15th century Clapton.The whole thing is that a competent musician playing 2 hours worth of the same song makes a pretty good showing.  They can build a Residential Building alone in a month with your plan... Or assist in producing the basics along with other magical Or you could just understand that the device is there to assist in paying for labor for a single project, or a location.  The labor is constant, and thus better than a normal 100 man crew... But it isn't the end-all be-all.  Slainte,-Loonook.</blockquote>

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