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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5915538" data-attributes="member: 6669384">I've had a question regarding some of the "magical labor" spells.Fabricate, for example, uses a craft check by the caster.  Obviously that check won't include any Aid Another modifiers they'd normally have access to from trained assistants.Would it include any other circumstance modifiers?  As in, if you try to claim bonuses because you have a well prepared shop or master worked artisan's tools, do you also pay the penalty when you have makeshift tools or no tools?The Magnificent Mansion spell includes raw materials enough for a nine course meal for a dozen people per caster level.  It also includes Unseen Servants for the house.  Does someone have to cook that nine course meal?  Are Unseen Servant spells entitled to a Craft or Profession - Cook roll on that?Are Unseen Servant spells normally allowed skill checks for the quality of work they do?  If so, what are the modifiers, if any?Will the Lyre of Building allow skilled labor?  If so, how should it be determined?  The description of the item talks about buildings and mines, which can't exactly be done sloppily if you want them to stand, after all.  Does it depend on Knowledge - Architecture and Engineering on the part of the musician, or do they need all the individual Craft/Profession skills used?  (i.e. Carpenter, Stone Mason, Plumber, Cabinet Maker, Roofer, Locksmith, Glazer (for the windows), Tile and Grout, etc. )The Sage said that the Lyre can only produce unskilled labor, but then The Sage has said a lot of things that flatly contradicted the actual rules.</blockquote>

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