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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 8064848" data-attributes="member: 6677017">Absolutely. Its kind of like a success at 3e diplomancy. You can't get them to kill themselves, but you can go a lot further than the social interaction rules in 5e would let you.I think that might be a bit too restrictive. Just using the social interaction rules in the DMG, you can potentially get a hostile creature to do something that doesn't require any risks or sacrifices. I think suggestion intends for you to go beyond that, with the hard limit of not doing something they think is likely to get them killed or seriously harmed, and the soft limit of "reasonable". Making "reasonable" mean essentially "non-contextually reasonable", I think handles the situation fairly well.One tough issue is using the spell to interrogate prisoners, suggesting it will go better for them if they cooperate. Such a mess of potential issues, that I actually had to think through and come up with guidelines for, since one of my players did exactly that. I don't want this broadly applicable 2nd-level compulsion style spell to be a better interrogation tool than the 2nd-level divination zone of truth that is designed for exactly that purpose, but at the same time I don't want to just say all criminals are more afraid of their boss than of you so it would be asking them to kill themselves. I basically decided that it would depend on the actual relationship with their boss, and that usually what it means is you can get them to give away pieces of information that it's "reasonable" to think won't get them killed, but you can't get them to spill all the beans.</blockquote>

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