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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crashy75" data-source="post: 3790603" data-attributes="member: 11017">I like the direction erf_beto is going in but I'd prefer that every character get a trait at first level (optional, but doesn't charge a feat or talent).  I like the idea of a marginal bonus with a substantial penalty.  I'm not sure of the balance of such things as well, but I'll leave that to the numbers guys.BruteYou rely on your menacing stare and brutish appearance to communicate.  Flaw: you are considered Inept on Persuasion: Diplomacy checks (you don’t get + 1/2 level nor any bonuses for being trained or focused while making these skill checks) Benefit: you gain +2 at any Persuasion: Intimidate checks.DandyYour natural charm and demeanor lightens the hart but doesn't scare your enemies one bit.Flaw: you are considered Inept on Persuasion: Intimidate checks (you don’t get + 1/2 level nor any bonuses for being trained or focused while using these checks) Benefit: you gain +2 to Persuasion: Diplomacy checks.EDIT: nor any bonuses for being trained or focused...</blockquote>