Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Suggestion to do what?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 547434" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>Also, as I understand it, Suggestion does not normally actually last 1 hour/level in the way that you're thinking of it. The description of the spell in the PH seems to suggest that 1 hour/level is the maximum amount of time a suggestion can lie dormant. The examples given are, IIRC, a pool of acid (obviously some kind of acid that actually looks like water-- H2SO4 perhaps)is really water and a dip would be refreshing, hold back a red dragon for "just a few seconds", and that a knight should give his horse to the first peasant he comes across.</p><p></p><p>Now, in the first example, it doesn't seem reasonable that Suggestion would compel the subject to stay "taking a dip" in the pool of acid for 5+hours. Even Dominate person (a spell of the same school and subtype and two levels higher to boot) couldn't do that. I imagine that, if successful, the subject would wade in, immerse himself in acid, and then realize that it wasn't water (as he took 10d6 of damage or so) and get out as quickly as possible.</p><p></p><p>Similarly, holding back the red dragon for just a few seconds obviously won't take 5+ hours. Instead, it will last for a round or two and if the NPC still survives, he'll then be free of the compulsion since he has held back the dragon for just a few seconds.</p><p></p><p>The third instance of the knight specifically deals with the duration. Assuming he fails the save, he will give his warhorse to the first peasant he comes across in the next 5+ hours. If he manages to go 5+ hours without meeting a peasant, the suggestion will go away. If he meets a peasant in hour 2, he gives his warhorse away. However, as I understand it, now that the suggestion is fulfilled, he could buy another warhorse during hour 4 and wouldn't have to worry about giving it away to a peasant a half hour later.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 547434, member: 3146"] Also, as I understand it, Suggestion does not normally actually last 1 hour/level in the way that you're thinking of it. The description of the spell in the PH seems to suggest that 1 hour/level is the maximum amount of time a suggestion can lie dormant. The examples given are, IIRC, a pool of acid (obviously some kind of acid that actually looks like water-- H2SO4 perhaps)is really water and a dip would be refreshing, hold back a red dragon for "just a few seconds", and that a knight should give his horse to the first peasant he comes across. Now, in the first example, it doesn't seem reasonable that Suggestion would compel the subject to stay "taking a dip" in the pool of acid for 5+hours. Even Dominate person (a spell of the same school and subtype and two levels higher to boot) couldn't do that. I imagine that, if successful, the subject would wade in, immerse himself in acid, and then realize that it wasn't water (as he took 10d6 of damage or so) and get out as quickly as possible. Similarly, holding back the red dragon for just a few seconds obviously won't take 5+ hours. Instead, it will last for a round or two and if the NPC still survives, he'll then be free of the compulsion since he has held back the dragon for just a few seconds. The third instance of the knight specifically deals with the duration. Assuming he fails the save, he will give his warhorse to the first peasant he comes across in the next 5+ hours. If he manages to go 5+ hours without meeting a peasant, the suggestion will go away. If he meets a peasant in hour 2, he gives his warhorse away. However, as I understand it, now that the suggestion is fulfilled, he could buy another warhorse during hour 4 and wouldn't have to worry about giving it away to a peasant a half hour later. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Suggestion to do what?
Top