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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5063216" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>That looks good, and happens to use a bunch of things I ban in my own games (Holy Warrior, Nightstick, and Persistent Spell) for being broken, so you're definitely well optimized. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>When you say "For 3 Turn Undead attempts I can use the bonus of Holy Warrior one more time per day," you meant Law Devotion, right? Holy Warrior's a broken reserve feat that gives up to +9 damage on all attacks, it makes no use of turn undead.</p><p></p><p>The only things I can think to add:</p><p>C.Champion has an alt class feature ot lose one of your 4th level spell slots for a pool of healing (level +1) x 5 hp per day, that works like lay on hands and is mechanically a good deal if you were likely to use the slot for healing anyway.</p><p>I like dwarf clerics using dwarven waraxes, hammers, or (using the DM discretion option to switch your racial weapon proficiencies if allowed) dwarven warpike. Races of Stone has the VERY good warpike and a note about changing the racial weapons you're proficient with. It also has a dwarf cleric sub level to lose a 2nd level spell lot to basically get Weapon Specialization (+2 damage) with all hammers.</p><p>If you're set on human I guess that's not an option, but dwarves make great clerics.</p><p></p><p>Did you consider a prestige class, since cleric 20 gives few class features? I enjoyed Church Inquisitor, it has full casting, easy pre-reqs, and some nice immunities, though doesn't help much with combat. It does give you a bonus domain, whose +4 on dispel checks on its own is handy, but using C.Champion's Substitute Domain spell (day/level duration), you can also trade it out for another domain your deity offers, which is nice versatility.</p><p></p><p>I always wanted to try out Ruby Knight Vindicator (Tome of Battle), but it requires worshipping Wee Jas and loses you caster levels, so probably not for you. It is a great "Fighter/Cleric" (more specifically, Crusader/Cleric) hybrid.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5063216, member: 35909"] That looks good, and happens to use a bunch of things I ban in my own games (Holy Warrior, Nightstick, and Persistent Spell) for being broken, so you're definitely well optimized. :) When you say "For 3 Turn Undead attempts I can use the bonus of Holy Warrior one more time per day," you meant Law Devotion, right? Holy Warrior's a broken reserve feat that gives up to +9 damage on all attacks, it makes no use of turn undead. The only things I can think to add: C.Champion has an alt class feature ot lose one of your 4th level spell slots for a pool of healing (level +1) x 5 hp per day, that works like lay on hands and is mechanically a good deal if you were likely to use the slot for healing anyway. I like dwarf clerics using dwarven waraxes, hammers, or (using the DM discretion option to switch your racial weapon proficiencies if allowed) dwarven warpike. Races of Stone has the VERY good warpike and a note about changing the racial weapons you're proficient with. It also has a dwarf cleric sub level to lose a 2nd level spell lot to basically get Weapon Specialization (+2 damage) with all hammers. If you're set on human I guess that's not an option, but dwarves make great clerics. Did you consider a prestige class, since cleric 20 gives few class features? I enjoyed Church Inquisitor, it has full casting, easy pre-reqs, and some nice immunities, though doesn't help much with combat. It does give you a bonus domain, whose +4 on dispel checks on its own is handy, but using C.Champion's Substitute Domain spell (day/level duration), you can also trade it out for another domain your deity offers, which is nice versatility. I always wanted to try out Ruby Knight Vindicator (Tome of Battle), but it requires worshipping Wee Jas and loses you caster levels, so probably not for you. It is a great "Fighter/Cleric" (more specifically, Crusader/Cleric) hybrid. [/QUOTE]
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