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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6599825" data-attributes="member: 6788736">That works. Highly suboptimal for him at 1st level though.Any reason he cant just wield a Battle axe and Hand axe at the same time at 1st level? The rules allow for this.His combined damage will be at +5 1d8+Str(3)+2 (9.5) with rage on the first attack, and a second attack (bonus action) at +5 dealing 1d6+2 (5.5) for a total of 15 DPR on average with hits (11 when not raging). Thats much higher DPR than a single 1d12+5 (11.5 or 9.5 when not raging) damage attack.At second level, he dips Fighter for second wind and the TWF fighting style adding a further (Str bonus) to the off hand attack, increasing average DPR by 3.He then goes back to Barb, sticks with it for 4 more levels, picking up DW feat at 5th level (4th Barb level) for the ability to use two Battle axes at once (and +1 AC).(FWIW I think Dual weilder is a total trap feat in almost every case possible. It gives no bonuses to hit, only lets you increase a single attacks damage by (on average) 1 point over what you could do anyways, and adds +1 to your AC. I recomend most classes (Barbs are possibly the only exception, but even they should probably stay away) just using a rapier and shortsword and boosting Dex at this level getting you +1 to hit and damage on both attacks, and to your AC, initiative, Dex saves and all your dex skills. Only when Dex is maxed would you want to take the DW feat, and even then I would take Lucky, Alert or Resilient any day of the week) As a final option you could just do what a lot of people do (myself included) and just grant everyone a bonus feat at 1st level (two for humans). He picks up the DW feat for his concept, uses 2 battleaxes and everyone is happy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 6599825, member: 6788736"] That works. Highly suboptimal for him at 1st level though. Any reason he cant just wield a Battle axe and Hand axe at the same time at 1st level? The rules allow for this. His combined damage will be at +5 1d8+Str(3)+2 (9.5) with rage on the first attack, and a second attack (bonus action) at +5 dealing 1d6+2 (5.5) for a total of 15 DPR on average with hits (11 when not raging). Thats much higher DPR than a single 1d12+5 (11.5 or 9.5 when not raging) damage attack. At second level, he dips Fighter for second wind and the TWF fighting style adding a further (Str bonus) to the off hand attack, increasing average DPR by 3. He then goes back to Barb, sticks with it for 4 more levels, picking up DW feat at 5th level (4th Barb level) for the ability to use two Battle axes at once (and +1 AC). (FWIW I think Dual weilder is a total trap feat in almost every case possible. It gives no bonuses to hit, only lets you increase a single attacks damage by (on average) 1 point over what you could do anyways, and adds +1 to your AC. I recomend most classes (Barbs are possibly the only exception, but even they should probably stay away) just using a rapier and shortsword and boosting Dex at this level getting you +1 to hit and damage on both attacks, and to your AC, initiative, Dex saves and all your dex skills. Only when Dex is maxed would you want to take the DW feat, and even then I would take Lucky, Alert or Resilient any day of the week) As a final option you could just do what a lot of people do (myself included) and just grant everyone a bonus feat at 1st level (two for humans). He picks up the DW feat for his concept, uses 2 battleaxes and everyone is happy. [/QUOTE]

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