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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GSHamster" data-source="post: 5666615" data-attributes="member: 20187">I strongly disagree with this. A paladin must have faith. Faith in something larger than himself. Faith that if he does what is right and just, it will be for the best. Faith that the girl he chooses to save is worth his sacrifice.I cannot think of a single paladin in fiction who would walk away. Michael Carpenter from the Dresden Files would not. Dresden himself (who has the soul of a paladin, in my view, for all that he is a wizard) chose to start a war with the Red Court of Vampires to save a single woman.Elizabeth Moon's Paksennarion (in what is probably the Crowning Moment of Awesome for a paladin) [spoiler] hands herself over to the Thieves Guild to be publicly tortured and raped, in order to save some hostages, and ultimately redeem the Thieves Guild through her sacrifice. "Arvid, there may have been another way to save Phelan: I don't know. Paladins don't know everything; we only know where we must go. But think of this: was there any other way to save the Thieves Guild?"He stared at her, mouth open like any yokel's. "Thieves Guild," he said finally. "What does Gird care about the Thieves Guild?""I don't know," said Paks. "But he must care something, to spend a paladin's pain on it . . ."[/spoiler]Faith and sacrifice are intimately interwined for a paladin. A paladin chooses to sacrifice, and has to have faith that his sacrifice is worthwhile.</blockquote>