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<blockquote data-quote="SilverfireSage" data-source="post: 6596642" data-attributes="member: 6778313"><p>I don't think they're paying a whole lot of attention to their characters then. Taking just the warlock, he just got his Chain pact at level 3, which is very powerful and can provide excellent scouting and potential damage (the imps tail attack is especially potent at low levels). From 2nd to 3rd he also got another spell, his spell slot level went up to 2 (remember that all warlock spells are cast at the highest spell level and regenerate at a short rest, making him grossly more powerful damage wise) and from 3rd to 4th he got an ability score improvement, another cantrip, another spell known. He can do 4d6 nova damage twice between short rests, and depending on the invocation he chose, he may be doing the most damage in the party with Eldritch Blast.</p><p></p><p>With the Arcane Trickster, from 2nd to 4th they got an extra die to their sneak attack, they gained three cantrips, four spells, three spell slots, and an ability score improvement. That's absolutely absurd for just a two level difference, and may be the greatest power leap of any archetype in the game. Maybe remind them of this: Power in 5E isn't necessarily a bonus in damage or a bonus to hit. It's in the amount of resources you gain and the options you have to make a fight go in your favor. Fighters will always do more damage than a Wizard, but I would never take a fighter over a wizard in a fight, simply because of the resources at the wizard's disposal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SilverfireSage, post: 6596642, member: 6778313"] I don't think they're paying a whole lot of attention to their characters then. Taking just the warlock, he just got his Chain pact at level 3, which is very powerful and can provide excellent scouting and potential damage (the imps tail attack is especially potent at low levels). From 2nd to 3rd he also got another spell, his spell slot level went up to 2 (remember that all warlock spells are cast at the highest spell level and regenerate at a short rest, making him grossly more powerful damage wise) and from 3rd to 4th he got an ability score improvement, another cantrip, another spell known. He can do 4d6 nova damage twice between short rests, and depending on the invocation he chose, he may be doing the most damage in the party with Eldritch Blast. With the Arcane Trickster, from 2nd to 4th they got an extra die to their sneak attack, they gained three cantrips, four spells, three spell slots, and an ability score improvement. That's absolutely absurd for just a two level difference, and may be the greatest power leap of any archetype in the game. Maybe remind them of this: Power in 5E isn't necessarily a bonus in damage or a bonus to hit. It's in the amount of resources you gain and the options you have to make a fight go in your favor. Fighters will always do more damage than a Wizard, but I would never take a fighter over a wizard in a fight, simply because of the resources at the wizard's disposal. [/QUOTE]
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