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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeremy" data-source="post: 150559" data-attributes="member: 4036">Excerpts from Mr. GinsuOriginally posted by ElricSaved from destruction by RolandIt's only an extract of this thread, however.And this thread was made "before" the "S&F errata", so the crit. range'll be worse.Mr. Ginsu could be found in the "Sword and Fist created a Death Machine" thread. Now it's deleted.Henry:"Mr. Ginsu" is: A hypothetical Fighter/Weaponmaster (10/10) with using a pair of +4 Vorpal Keen Bladed Gauntlets, and the feats Ambidexterity, TWF, ITWF, Weapon Focus (Bladed Gauntlets), Specialization (Bladed Gauntlets), Improved Critical, Power Attack, Cleave, Great Cleave, Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, and Spring Attack. This would give him a minimum of 6 attacks around, and a crit range of 7-20 on the Bladed Gauntlets. If opponents ever surround him, he can do a Great Cleave/Whirlwind combo with an extra 2 attacks from the ITWF. With the vorpal gauntlets he theoretically has around a 90% chance of killing 8 Solars if they ever surround him. Actually, Mr. Ginsu only used one Bladed Gauntlet. I thought that people would think it incredibly ridiculous if I made a character with 2 +4 Vorpal, Keen Bladed Gauntlets. If I had made him use two weapons, I would have made him a Fighter 10/Weapons Master 9/Ranger 1. Mr. Ginsu also used the Quickened Haste/ki Whirlwind combo to get 2 Whirlwinds a round. His chance to kill the 8 Solars was well over 90%, even though no one ever did a full calculation. If opponents ever surround him, he can do a Great Cleave/Whirlwind combo with an extra 2 attacks from the ITWF. With the vorpal gauntlets he theoretically has around a 90% chance of killing 8 Solars if they ever surround him. [/B]</blockquote>IIRC, whirlwind is a full attack which only allows one attack at highest bab. AFAIK, you shouldn't get any other offhand attacks. Whirlwind is a full round attack, for your primary hand. If you have ITWF, you still get your offhand attacks. It was a Sage Advice question. It's just gets worse and worse every time you ask them about that combo... keen weapons can be slashing or piercing weapons.Note by CRGreathouse Mr. Ginsu: RevisitedWith the permission of secretary Jeremy, I humbly submit a solution to this long-unanswered problem: 99.37%.<editor’s note: THE CR Greathouse asked *my* permission.  Heh.  No need CRG.>Conditions:Ftr10/Weapon Master10Attack bonus +33 (easily obtainable)Great CleaveImproved Critical (bladed gauntlet)A single pre-errata +4 keen vorpal bladed gauntletTwo Whirlwind Attacks via a hasted ki whirlwindIf the post-errata bladed gauntlets are used, the chance to kill all 8 drops to 51.34%; if a keen vorpal scimitar and Improved Critical (scimitar) are used instead, the chance becomes 89.91%.One Whirlwind, no TWF:Threat/Chance to kill all 87-20/87.87%10-20/55.06%13-20/16.32%[/QUOTE]

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