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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy" data-source="post: 390862" data-attributes="member: 4036"><p>That's alright. Perhaps I might point you to this one. Instead of few magic items we have NO magic items. Instead of 6 prestige classes, we have zero. In fact, unless you really want to get nasty, you don't have to use anything but the PHB.</p><p></p><p>Now me personally, the more complex the better, give me magical items and obscure classes mixed up in a creative manner and show me something I haven't seen. That's where I see the challenge. Creativity and imagination, variety and mastery of multiple subject matters.</p><p></p><p>Low magic, low level, limited source smackdowns are also limited imagination oft times. It takes a lot of open mindedness, visual thinking, and love of heroic fantasy, but when you get into it, there is nothing so visceral, exiting, and given to spectacular retelling as an over the top encounter like these.</p><p></p><p>But I digress, as I said, here's low magic, low prestige, normal level, smackdown without a charge attack. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p><strong>My half-orc priest beat your paladin champion with a stick!</strong></p><p>Originally Posted by Dantai</p><p></p><p><strong>PHB Smackdown with no magic items</strong></p><p></p><p>O.K. You got your prestige classes of uber-cheese only printed once in warbles and weevils magazine vol 1 smackdowns utilizing +8 swords of monkey-beasting. </p><p></p><p>Here's something a bit simpler:</p><p></p><p>Half-Orc: Cleric (St Cuthbert) Lv16</p><p></p><p>Armed only with a common qurterstaff and these Feats:</p><p>Ambidexterity, TWF, Imp TWF, Power Attack</p><p></p><p>With Divine Favour (yes I am English), Greater Magic Weapon and Righteous Might cast.</p><p></p><p>With a strength of 24 activating your strength domain power gives a strength of 40 for a round, str 44 with righteous might.</p><p></p><p>So your base damage adjust is +17 (str) +25 (two-handed) +30 (luck bonus from divine favour) +35 (enhancement bonus from greater magic weapon).</p><p></p><p>You get 5 attacks this round the lowest attack bonus being +24, might as well use the smite ability on that one then for a grand total of:</p><p></p><p>191 + 5D8 damage</p><p></p><p>If you're being picky then Power Attack away to your heart's content.</p><p></p><p>Total cost of Smackdown ingredients = zip, not a single GP</p><p></p><p>Total number of dodgy classes and books used= zip, PHB only</p><p></p><p>So when you're butt-naked in the dungeon of ultimate despair you need only find a stick to prove that you are still the daddy.</p><p></p><p>For a bit of extra death you could use the Spikes spell out of DotF </p><p></p><p>I guess you could disallow the Righteous Might if you only had one round to prep, but you could take a Barbarian Lvl (and a N alignment) and use rage to compensate, which would be slightly less effective but should still get the 200 pts in with a bit of power attacking.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy, post: 390862, member: 4036"] That's alright. Perhaps I might point you to this one. Instead of few magic items we have NO magic items. Instead of 6 prestige classes, we have zero. In fact, unless you really want to get nasty, you don't have to use anything but the PHB. Now me personally, the more complex the better, give me magical items and obscure classes mixed up in a creative manner and show me something I haven't seen. That's where I see the challenge. Creativity and imagination, variety and mastery of multiple subject matters. Low magic, low level, limited source smackdowns are also limited imagination oft times. It takes a lot of open mindedness, visual thinking, and love of heroic fantasy, but when you get into it, there is nothing so visceral, exiting, and given to spectacular retelling as an over the top encounter like these. But I digress, as I said, here's low magic, low prestige, normal level, smackdown without a charge attack. :) [b]My half-orc priest beat your paladin champion with a stick![/b] Originally Posted by Dantai [b]PHB Smackdown with no magic items[/b] O.K. You got your prestige classes of uber-cheese only printed once in warbles and weevils magazine vol 1 smackdowns utilizing +8 swords of monkey-beasting. Here's something a bit simpler: Half-Orc: Cleric (St Cuthbert) Lv16 Armed only with a common qurterstaff and these Feats: Ambidexterity, TWF, Imp TWF, Power Attack With Divine Favour (yes I am English), Greater Magic Weapon and Righteous Might cast. With a strength of 24 activating your strength domain power gives a strength of 40 for a round, str 44 with righteous might. So your base damage adjust is +17 (str) +25 (two-handed) +30 (luck bonus from divine favour) +35 (enhancement bonus from greater magic weapon). You get 5 attacks this round the lowest attack bonus being +24, might as well use the smite ability on that one then for a grand total of: 191 + 5D8 damage If you're being picky then Power Attack away to your heart's content. Total cost of Smackdown ingredients = zip, not a single GP Total number of dodgy classes and books used= zip, PHB only So when you're butt-naked in the dungeon of ultimate despair you need only find a stick to prove that you are still the daddy. For a bit of extra death you could use the Spikes spell out of DotF I guess you could disallow the Righteous Might if you only had one round to prep, but you could take a Barbarian Lvl (and a N alignment) and use rage to compensate, which would be slightly less effective but should still get the 200 pts in with a bit of power attacking. [/QUOTE]
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