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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8504255" data-attributes="member: 93670">The short/long rest class differences that are an issue with o5e are really a different thing from needing to throw multiple sessions worth of encounters at a party to stretch their resources IMO. I agree that they were a serious problem in o5e but there are a couple things mitigating that in a5e.First you have more thought to the classes & archetypes themselves to avoid boneheaded exploitative builds like sorlock & hexbladeadin where a player could dip a short rest class to gain lolbroke abilities on top of a pair of short rest rocketboots at basically no loss if the game went past level 8-10. There are too many parts of class design to really cover but the easiest & most obvious one is that eldritch blast is a class ability that scales on warlock level & some of the warlock levels themselves have ability options that modify specific EB options so it's not just a matter of a sorcerer putting off one 4th/5th level spell by 2 levels for 3d10+15+knockbacks.Synergy feats exist for builds like that but they take 3 levels in two classes plus each feat in the chain.The second big thing is that the system as a whole is designed so as not to trivialize the gm's toolkit or make it unusable.   One really obvious extra tools available in how exhaustion's death spiral was split into fatigue(physical) &strife(mental) with penalties that a player will care about without being so crippling the party just stops & declares they are taking a long rest or bust.[spoiler="fatigue & strife"][ATTACH=full]149449[/ATTACH][/spoiler]Recovering from them is about on par with ability damage back in 3.x where you can get 1 point back per long rest & need things like a haven or various spells*/abilities. maladies(ie diseases & such) region effects (ie terrain stuff) exploration challenges monsters some abilities players have or just whatever stressful ting the gm declares causes it  could inflict them with or (theoretically) without a save.  Sure you can take a short rest but you've been pushing really hard & are going to start picking up a level of fatigue and/or strife each one.*This is an example of how the system is structured to not trivialize the GM's tools.  Greater restoration removes [spoiler="*One* of"]one of:• a level of fatigue.• a level of strife.• a charm or petrification effect.• a curse or cursed item attunement.• any reduction to a single ability score.• an effect that has reduced the target’s hitpoint maximum.[/spoiler]and there are very few abilities that will remove fatigue or strife but quite a few that will allow someone to ignore a given amount of it for a bit like a bard level 9 battle hymn option that lasts till the end of a combat for one creature.</blockquote>

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