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<blockquote data-quote="bert1001 fka bert1000" data-source="post: 8504408" data-attributes="member: 7029588">Completely agree.&nbsp; The system should support all variety of adventuring days.&nbsp; &nbsp; It's a flaw in O5e that doesn't exist in 4e, 13th Age, and PF2e.&nbsp;&nbsp; 4e - is balanced around the encounter.&nbsp;&nbsp; Short rests are 5min and should be easy to take.&nbsp; &nbsp; all classes pre-essential share the same encounter and daily needs so are aligned on when to take rests.13th Age -- as you said, meta after every 2 encountersPF2e -&nbsp; is also balanced around the encounter.&nbsp;&nbsp; 10 min Refocus and Treat Wounds.&nbsp;&nbsp; Also seems not many encounter powers anyway.O5e - seems to have balanced classes on the 6-8 encounter with 2-3 short rests a day idea, and short rests are also not trivial to do (1 hour).&nbsp; Not great design IMO.LU - has increased the importance of short rests for an average party (mostly through manuvers) and the short rests are still 1 hour.&nbsp; &nbsp; What I can't tell is the assumptions for the new martials in terms of expected short rest. &nbsp;This feels true, which might lead to better mechanical short resting but weirder narrative.&nbsp;&nbsp; Not sure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bert1001 fka bert1000, post: 8504408, member: 7029588"] Completely agree. The system should support all variety of adventuring days. It's a flaw in O5e that doesn't exist in 4e, 13th Age, and PF2e. 4e - is balanced around the encounter. Short rests are 5min and should be easy to take. all classes pre-essential share the same encounter and daily needs so are aligned on when to take rests. 13th Age -- as you said, meta after every 2 encounters PF2e - is also balanced around the encounter. 10 min Refocus and Treat Wounds. Also seems not many encounter powers anyway. O5e - seems to have balanced classes on the 6-8 encounter with 2-3 short rests a day idea, and short rests are also not trivial to do (1 hour). Not great design IMO. LU - has increased the importance of short rests for an average party (mostly through manuvers) and the short rests are still 1 hour. What I can't tell is the assumptions for the new martials in terms of expected short rest. This feels true, which might lead to better mechanical short resting but weirder narrative. Not sure. [/QUOTE]

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