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<blockquote data-quote="Twowolves" data-source="post: 2935329" data-attributes="member: 18093"><p>My signature isn't neat in any event. What's your point? You said I couldn't sign my name with a weight on my arm, and you didn't mention combat at all. I assure you, I can do so.</p><p></p><p>(Besides, casting a spell "in combat" draws an AoO anyway, which obviously you aren't talking about in your example. So you are making a strawman because your intitial position is weak.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You got me. My sister honestly didn't strap a weight to her arm while signing. How does that in any way whatsoever invalidate what I said? I said she could do so. If you want, I can call her up and have her sign for you with a weight on her arm, but you'd say something else trying to invalidate the comparison, so there's no point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, a lanyard is supposed to equal a locking gauntlet? I don't think so. And just because there isn't an official rule for lanyards means what exactly? That you have to try to extrapolate from a locked gauntlet? An item that completely encloses the hand and locks it into place?? That's patently absurd. Even if you have a weapon on a wrist strap and are disarmed, you still A) don't threaten a square with that weapon B) have to reaquire the weapon before you can use it or draw another C) get no other benefit from having the weapon in hand. Just because it's on a rope doesn't mean you aren't "disarmed", it just means you don't have to bend over and pick it up.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right. So you impose "balance" by making a clever idea useless? I'd hate to play in one of your games. The party comes up with a clever plan for dealing with the monster and you "balance" the plan by having it not work?</p><p></p><p>And your balance STILL makes having a weight on your arm be just as distracting as having a full grown man try to pin you in a wrestling match. Overkill by a mile.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, to paraphrase your august self, do it in combat. Did you have a shield in either hand? Were you under attack? Did you try to cast a spell, or even sign your name? Do you think it would be even remotely possible to drop your hunting knife while holding both it and a shield, moving the knife into your other hand, signing your name perfectly and neatly, while being under threat of attack, and then switching the knife back into your primary hand? Certainly just as concievable as having a 5 pound weight on one arm be just as distracting as a 150 pound man on your back....</p><p></p><p>Never mind the fact that in D&D, a longsword weighs 4lbs, by your interpretation enough weight to warrant a concentration check, but a buckler that weighs 5lbs does not. You can cast a spell with a somatic component with a buckler on that arm, but not a 3 lb club? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here's what I'm talking about. You claimed that weapon straps were invented to prevent being disarmed. I said dropping a weapon of your own free will and having it removed by a disarm were similar. If the lanyard would work for the disarm attempt, why can't it also work when you just drop the weapon?</p><p></p><p>Drop a weapon to the ground then cast a spell, then move and draw a new weapon (free action/standard action/move action with BAB >+1). Drop a weapon on a wrist strap, cast a spell, then reaquire the weapon as part of a move (free action/standard action/move action). What's the big difference? Because it's not "balanced"? Because there is no AoO? Creative thinking and logical problem solving not allowed?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Twowolves, post: 2935329, member: 18093"] My signature isn't neat in any event. What's your point? You said I couldn't sign my name with a weight on my arm, and you didn't mention combat at all. I assure you, I can do so. (Besides, casting a spell "in combat" draws an AoO anyway, which obviously you aren't talking about in your example. So you are making a strawman because your intitial position is weak.) You got me. My sister honestly didn't strap a weight to her arm while signing. How does that in any way whatsoever invalidate what I said? I said she could do so. If you want, I can call her up and have her sign for you with a weight on her arm, but you'd say something else trying to invalidate the comparison, so there's no point. So, a lanyard is supposed to equal a locking gauntlet? I don't think so. And just because there isn't an official rule for lanyards means what exactly? That you have to try to extrapolate from a locked gauntlet? An item that completely encloses the hand and locks it into place?? That's patently absurd. Even if you have a weapon on a wrist strap and are disarmed, you still A) don't threaten a square with that weapon B) have to reaquire the weapon before you can use it or draw another C) get no other benefit from having the weapon in hand. Just because it's on a rope doesn't mean you aren't "disarmed", it just means you don't have to bend over and pick it up. Right. So you impose "balance" by making a clever idea useless? I'd hate to play in one of your games. The party comes up with a clever plan for dealing with the monster and you "balance" the plan by having it not work? And your balance STILL makes having a weight on your arm be just as distracting as having a full grown man try to pin you in a wrestling match. Overkill by a mile. Now, to paraphrase your august self, do it in combat. Did you have a shield in either hand? Were you under attack? Did you try to cast a spell, or even sign your name? Do you think it would be even remotely possible to drop your hunting knife while holding both it and a shield, moving the knife into your other hand, signing your name perfectly and neatly, while being under threat of attack, and then switching the knife back into your primary hand? Certainly just as concievable as having a 5 pound weight on one arm be just as distracting as a 150 pound man on your back.... Never mind the fact that in D&D, a longsword weighs 4lbs, by your interpretation enough weight to warrant a concentration check, but a buckler that weighs 5lbs does not. You can cast a spell with a somatic component with a buckler on that arm, but not a 3 lb club? Here's what I'm talking about. You claimed that weapon straps were invented to prevent being disarmed. I said dropping a weapon of your own free will and having it removed by a disarm were similar. If the lanyard would work for the disarm attempt, why can't it also work when you just drop the weapon? Drop a weapon to the ground then cast a spell, then move and draw a new weapon (free action/standard action/move action with BAB >+1). Drop a weapon on a wrist strap, cast a spell, then reaquire the weapon as part of a move (free action/standard action/move action). What's the big difference? Because it's not "balanced"? Because there is no AoO? Creative thinking and logical problem solving not allowed? [/QUOTE]
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