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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2938509" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>There are no core rules. There are Rules of the Game rules (if you use those).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because I considered a free action directly derived from RAW.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It should take a lot less time to move a weapon from one hand to the other than it does to move 30 feet. So, I do not consider this action to be "a similar amount of time" to moving 30 feet. I consider it a very small amount of time and effort.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How so? For most weapons (e.g. longsword), it takes more range of motion and time to pull them out of a scabbard than it does to simply move a weapon from one hand to the other (and use both hands to do that operation). Drawing a weapon is time consuming, hence, the reason they added a simultaneous with moving rule (since you are using one or both hands for drawing the weapon and your feet for moving).</p><p></p><p>When I look at move actions, the vast majority of them take 2+ seconds to do in real life:</p><p></p><p>Mount a horse, stand up from prone, move 30 feet, ready a shield, etc.</p><p></p><p>When I look at moving a weapon from one hand to the other, I am seeing a fraction of a second. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I can move a hunting knife 20 times from hand to hand in 6 seconds, so that is less than a third of a second per switch. That to me is "a very small amount of time and effort", not "a similar amount of time" to moving 30 feet. JMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2938509, member: 2011"] There are no core rules. There are Rules of the Game rules (if you use those). Because I considered a free action directly derived from RAW. It should take a lot less time to move a weapon from one hand to the other than it does to move 30 feet. So, I do not consider this action to be "a similar amount of time" to moving 30 feet. I consider it a very small amount of time and effort. How so? For most weapons (e.g. longsword), it takes more range of motion and time to pull them out of a scabbard than it does to simply move a weapon from one hand to the other (and use both hands to do that operation). Drawing a weapon is time consuming, hence, the reason they added a simultaneous with moving rule (since you are using one or both hands for drawing the weapon and your feet for moving). When I look at move actions, the vast majority of them take 2+ seconds to do in real life: Mount a horse, stand up from prone, move 30 feet, ready a shield, etc. When I look at moving a weapon from one hand to the other, I am seeing a fraction of a second. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I can move a hunting knife 20 times from hand to hand in 6 seconds, so that is less than a third of a second per switch. That to me is "a very small amount of time and effort", not "a similar amount of time" to moving 30 feet. JMO. [/QUOTE]
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