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Summon Greater Demon, Arcane Focus and blood of a humanoid killed in the last 24 hours
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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 9069947" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>Sage advice from 2017 makes it clear you can use a focus, but to get the circle you need actual humanoid blood. There are two weak arguments that say this is the wrong call - one very weak, and one moderate weak.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.sageadvice.eu/summon-greater-demon-can-a-focus-be-used-to-substitute-for-the-material-cost/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Weaker argument: They do not list a price in the PHB, but killing a humanoid does come with a cost. I think they failed to think about this when writing the book, but if they had they would have prohibited the use of a spell component pouch or focus. However, they did not think of it and under RAW ...</p><p></p><p>Slightly stronger argument: The above is the next sentence in the arcane focus section. It can be interpreted to say that if a spell description says a component is consumed, you <em>MUST</em> provide the component for each casting. The description does say the component is consumed when the spell ends under certain considerations. The requirement that the spell component must be provided if consumed does not say that you don't need it when the consumption is conditional. Accordingly, there is an argument that you always need the blood because it <em>can</em> be consumed by the spell. Again - not the strongest argument, but this type of logic has won out before in more important places than this...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 9069947, member: 2629"] Sage advice from 2017 makes it clear you can use a focus, but to get the circle you need actual humanoid blood. There are two weak arguments that say this is the wrong call - one very weak, and one moderate weak. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.sageadvice.eu/summon-greater-demon-can-a-focus-be-used-to-substitute-for-the-material-cost/[/URL] Weaker argument: They do not list a price in the PHB, but killing a humanoid does come with a cost. I think they failed to think about this when writing the book, but if they had they would have prohibited the use of a spell component pouch or focus. However, they did not think of it and under RAW ... Slightly stronger argument: The above is the next sentence in the arcane focus section. It can be interpreted to say that if a spell description says a component is consumed, you [I]MUST[/I] provide the component for each casting. The description does say the component is consumed when the spell ends under certain considerations. The requirement that the spell component must be provided if consumed does not say that you don't need it when the consumption is conditional. Accordingly, there is an argument that you always need the blood because it [I]can[/I] be consumed by the spell. Again - not the strongest argument, but this type of logic has won out before in more important places than this... [/QUOTE]
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