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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gfunk" data-source="post: 187174" data-attributes="member: 1813">I agree this is an interesting situation, one which has not yet come up IMC.  However, in Caliban's defense remember that Summon spells used to summon Good or Evil creatures are automatically tagged with the Good or Evil descriptor.  So, from a D&D alignment perspective, casting a Summon Monster spell to summon an Imp (LE) for example is the moral equivalent of casting Animate Dead, Unholy Blight, Blasphemy, or Unhallow.  By the same token summoning an Archon (LG) is like casting Holy Word, Hallow, or Detect Evil.  We all know that in the real world that things are not so black and white.  For example, I don't think people would call you evil if you gated in a Pit Fiend to help you dispatch a group of demons.However, this is D&D, not the real world and alignment is black and white.  Archons, while fully under your control as per the Summon Moster spell description, will not appreciate being told to do evil things.  Keep in mind though, Lantern Archons are dumb as doornails (Int 6) and they are usually summoned after hostilities have broken out.  Therefore, unless the Archon is obviously performing an evil act, he may not even know it.  For instance, he may be ordered to attack a LG NPC w/o him knowing it.Caliban's rather extreme example (summoning a Hound Archon to kill kiddies in an orphange) would have to be undertaken by the Archon whether he likes it or not.  Of course he would try to subvert such orders by yelling warnings to the kids to get away, inflicting subdual damage, etc.  The archon would, of course, report such henious orders to his superiors IMO and if such offenses are repeated, then divine retribution is probably called for.So the bottom line is this:- Summon Monster spells have Good and Evil descriptors- Alignment in D&D is black and white- Summoned Monsters *must* obey the will of the caster to "the best of its ability."  However, the more powerful outsiders that are summoned may resent what you force them to do, leading to disastrous consequences.</blockquote>

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