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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Krud" data-source="post: 2966605" data-attributes="member: 26493">Ok, now I've found out that I can't pick some of the better summoned monsters as a good cleric, I thought I'd ask people's opinion on the Summon Monster spell list. What do you think are the best monster choices to summon in? Do you think Summon Monster spells are sub-optimal as an offensive spell at low levels/midlevels? Personally I feel that at high levels the creatures powers dont increase enough to deal with higher CRs of the encounters you'll be facing or are outclassed by other spells (Summon Monster IX vs Gate). Feel free to include the Summon Nature's Ally spells in this discussion.At low levels I'm trying to find some creatures that stack up quite well in combat. A 5th level cleric can summon a Celestial Bison which can gore for 1d8+9 damage for 5 rounds. A 3rd level druid can sommon a Crocodile with a tail slap which does 1d8+6 for 3 rounds. Do you think these are good uses of a 3rd and 2nd level spell slot respectively? Do you think there's a minimum caster level at which the Summon Spells become effective due to duration? Would a lower point buy for your characters make these spells a better choice?I'm just trying to hear other peoples experiences regarding these spells. As a cleric Summon Monster III looks like an alright offensive spell, but I'm pretty sure a wizard could find better options for the spell slot (eg fireball).</blockquote>