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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Malin Genie" data-source="post: 761922" data-attributes="member: 1058">Personally if I were DMing a campaign that reached 9th level spells I would seriously consider banning Gate - that a 17th level caster can summon and control a CR19 Solar (for example) which is more powerful than the caster, for the 'cost' of only one of the caster's spell slots?Or if not banning Gate, perhaps allowing the planar travel option as written, but requiring a negotiation / exchange of services for any creature called through the Gate - after all, isn't there supposed to be a distinction between 'calling' and 'summoning' ?  That would then provide at least some reason for casting SM IX....I wonder whether the spell will be changed for 3.5E (if the seriously increased power of the Pit Fiend is anything to go by, I certainly hope so.....)BTW: 20ft in diameter is plenty of room for Elder Earth Elementals....</blockquote>