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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jondor_Battlehammer" data-source="post: 271230" data-attributes="member: 5335">My way of thinking was always this...If you were casting a full roud action spell with haste on, you would have to take the extra partial action first or lose it. OR that you could use the partial action to take a partial full round action, use the extra partial next round to finish the full round spell, and then have another full round. Like old D&D, where fighters got three attacks every two rounds, 1 in round twoo, 2 in the next. I can't quite word it in the way it's floating around in my mind, but if haste esential made a spell quickened from partial, or partial from full, it would say so. Also, the description of full round spells says nothing about needing another partial action to complete, just that it takes effect on you next round. Also, by the way it is explained in the books, any full round action is completed in your round EXCEPT full round spells, that no matter what, it took till your next round to complete. There is no explanation given, and we generally use full round spells like any other full round action, you are limited to a 5' step.The whole hasted/full round argument is the most confusing 3E ideas  have come across, especially with some of the assumptions on both sides that I don't see any basis for. I'm fairly new to these boards, so is there an old argument that I am missing?</blockquote>