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Summon Monster spells underpowered for elementals?
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<blockquote data-quote="Bonedagger" data-source="post: 271236" data-attributes="member: 2564"><p></p><p></p><p>Don't worry. I'm not out to get you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>(It seems to be a leftover from second ed. when haste didn't affect spellcasting.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In the case of Monster S. the monsters appear as soon as the caster stops chanting. With a full-round casting time that normally happens just before his turn in the next round. </p><p></p><p>In other words: As soon as the spell is complete, monsters appear. There is no "delay".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. Because such an action does not exist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. Stop making up your own therms in a rule discussion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. It speeds up your spellcasting. (As in: Normally you can only cast 1 standard action spell per round. Now you can cast 2 standard action spells per round)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can start or complete a full-round action with a partial action.... No "but".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok. Just did.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said a full-round action can be started and completed in the same partial action.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Edit: Look at it this way.</p><p></p><p>Casting a spell with a casting time of 1 full round is a full-round action.</p><p></p><p>A full-round action consumes all your efforts during that round. Whether you make a full attack, load a heavy crossbow or cast a spell with a full-round casting time.</p><p></p><p>Haste allows you to take an extra partial action after (or before) a full-round action in the same round. It doesn't matter what you used that full-round action on.</p><p></p><p>A full-round action (including spellcasting) normally consumes all your time until your next turn. Haste changes this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bonedagger, post: 271236, member: 2564"] [B][/b] Don't worry. I'm not out to get you. :) [b][/b] (It seems to be a leftover from second ed. when haste didn't affect spellcasting.) [b][/b] In the case of Monster S. the monsters appear as soon as the caster stops chanting. With a full-round casting time that normally happens just before his turn in the next round. In other words: As soon as the spell is complete, monsters appear. There is no "delay". No. Because such an action does not exist. [b][/b] Correct. Stop making up your own therms in a rule discussion. [b][/b] Correct. It speeds up your spellcasting. (As in: Normally you can only cast 1 standard action spell per round. Now you can cast 2 standard action spells per round) [b][/b] You can start or complete a full-round action with a partial action.... No "but". [b][/b] Ok. Just did. I never said a full-round action can be started and completed in the same partial action. Edit: Look at it this way. Casting a spell with a casting time of 1 full round is a full-round action. A full-round action consumes all your efforts during that round. Whether you make a full attack, load a heavy crossbow or cast a spell with a full-round casting time. Haste allows you to take an extra partial action after (or before) a full-round action in the same round. It doesn't matter what you used that full-round action on. A full-round action (including spellcasting) normally consumes all your time until your next turn. Haste changes this. [/QUOTE]
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