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Summon Monster spells underpowered for elementals?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mr.Binx" data-source="post: 279352" data-attributes="member: 4691"><p>Don't forget that you can also use the <em>Planar Binding</em> line of spells starting with your 5th level spell slots to start binding Large Elementals to do your bidding for long periods of time. These are among the most powerful lines of creature conjuration spells you can gain as an arcane caster. Also, spell creation is the most under-used resource in most any role-playing game I have encountered. Don't settle for something you don't want. Bug your DM and make the effort to create something you want. The intelligence and drive of the player behind the caster is what makes a personal specilization such as this so powerful. Some good feats to employ are:</p><p><strong>Augment Summoning</strong></p><p><strong>Improved Familiar</strong> (small elemental of your choice)</p><p><strong>Signature Spell</strong> (<em>Summon Monster III</em> and other commmon elemental summoning choices)</p><p><strong>Spell Thematics</strong> (errata'ed version)</p><p><strong>Craft Wondrous Item</strong> At 13th level (at the cost of 50,000gp and 2,000xp) you can craft a <em>Stone of Controlling Earth Elementals</em>, a <em>Bowl of Commanding Water Elementals</em>, and a <em>Brazier of Commanding Fire Elementals</em>. At 17th level (at the same cost) you can craft a <em>Censer of Controlling Air Elementals</em></p><p>I'm sure there must be a feat somewhere that makes your spells harder to dispel. That would be a definate plus since area dispels are pretty nasty if you have a plethora of summoned creatures on the battlefield. If these resources aren't good enough for the player, you could always work with the player and tailor a balanced prestige class to employ.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mr.Binx, post: 279352, member: 4691"] Don't forget that you can also use the [i]Planar Binding[/i] line of spells starting with your 5th level spell slots to start binding Large Elementals to do your bidding for long periods of time. These are among the most powerful lines of creature conjuration spells you can gain as an arcane caster. Also, spell creation is the most under-used resource in most any role-playing game I have encountered. Don't settle for something you don't want. Bug your DM and make the effort to create something you want. The intelligence and drive of the player behind the caster is what makes a personal specilization such as this so powerful. Some good feats to employ are: [b]Augment Summoning[/b] [b]Improved Familiar[/b] (small elemental of your choice) [b]Signature Spell[/b] ([i]Summon Monster III[/i] and other commmon elemental summoning choices) [b]Spell Thematics[/b] (errata'ed version) [b]Craft Wondrous Item[/b] At 13th level (at the cost of 50,000gp and 2,000xp) you can craft a [i]Stone of Controlling Earth Elementals[/i], a [i]Bowl of Commanding Water Elementals[/i], and a [i]Brazier of Commanding Fire Elementals[/i]. At 17th level (at the same cost) you can craft a [i]Censer of Controlling Air Elementals[/i] I'm sure there must be a feat somewhere that makes your spells harder to dispel. That would be a definate plus since area dispels are pretty nasty if you have a plethora of summoned creatures on the battlefield. If these resources aren't good enough for the player, you could always work with the player and tailor a balanced prestige class to employ. [/QUOTE]
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