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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 286126" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Full Round Spells and Actions</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that casting a one round spell is not casting a full round spell.</p><p></p><p>There is a difference between the two. A Sorcerer’s metamagiced spell is a full round spell.</p><p></p><p>You are attempting to allow a one round spell to become a full round spell, but where in the rules does it allow that?</p><p></p><p>I’ve asked this question multiple times, but you keep sidestepping it. My assumption is that you will sidestep if you respond again.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And, so how is it that different relative durations does not make the definition of a round relative? It’s all about how you use it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly what does the word “completion” mean to you?</p><p></p><p>“A spell that takes 1 full round to cast is a full round action, and it comes into effect just before the beginning of your turn in the round after you began casting the spell. You then act normally after the spell is <strong>completed</strong>.”</p><p></p><p>"Unless doing so is a full-round action, in which case a combatant could start a full-round action and then <strong>finish</strong> it the next round with a cast a spell action. Spells that take longer than 1 full round to cast take twice as long to cast."</p><p></p><p>Does finish and completed sound different to you? Evidently not since you used the word “completing” in your sentence above when referring to the exception case where the actual word is “finish”.</p><p></p><p>Again, I ask you for a rule that supports your position. Instead, you keep arguing that the words in the book do not state what they state and I have to pull out full quotes to illustrate differently. In fact, even when I pull out a quote such as the two different meanings of the word round, you dismiss it as “There is only one definition of "a round": “ and “Yes. I am sure.”.</p><p></p><p>You appear to be arguing, just to argue. You have yet to show a rule that allows a one round spell to be stuff into a full round action without it spanning two actual rounds.</p><p></p><p>Until you can do that, you are merely making up house rules and ignoring what is in the book like the multiple definitions of the word round.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I await your response where yet again you do not prove your point with rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 286126, member: 2011"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Full Round Spells and Actions[/b] Except that casting a one round spell is not casting a full round spell. There is a difference between the two. A Sorcerer’s metamagiced spell is a full round spell. You are attempting to allow a one round spell to become a full round spell, but where in the rules does it allow that? I’ve asked this question multiple times, but you keep sidestepping it. My assumption is that you will sidestep if you respond again. And, so how is it that different relative durations does not make the definition of a round relative? It’s all about how you use it. Exactly what does the word “completion” mean to you? “A spell that takes 1 full round to cast is a full round action, and it comes into effect just before the beginning of your turn in the round after you began casting the spell. You then act normally after the spell is [b]completed[/b].” "Unless doing so is a full-round action, in which case a combatant could start a full-round action and then [b]finish[/b] it the next round with a cast a spell action. Spells that take longer than 1 full round to cast take twice as long to cast." Does finish and completed sound different to you? Evidently not since you used the word “completing” in your sentence above when referring to the exception case where the actual word is “finish”. Again, I ask you for a rule that supports your position. Instead, you keep arguing that the words in the book do not state what they state and I have to pull out full quotes to illustrate differently. In fact, even when I pull out a quote such as the two different meanings of the word round, you dismiss it as “There is only one definition of "a round": “ and “Yes. I am sure.”. You appear to be arguing, just to argue. You have yet to show a rule that allows a one round spell to be stuff into a full round action without it spanning two actual rounds. Until you can do that, you are merely making up house rules and ignoring what is in the book like the multiple definitions of the word round. I await your response where yet again you do not prove your point with rules. [/QUOTE]
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