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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 1195219" data-attributes="member: 2238">Well, the spell gives certain assumptions.  1) That you are pulling somthing off the planes2) That whatever you pull off the planes is compelled to do your bidding3) The spell is very short lived, so creature goes home right awaySo it seems to me that there should be no restriction on what you can summon.The CRs and HD do not fit the levels.  At 9th level, there are CR 12 creatures and a Roc has like 18 HD.  So I don't think its based on CR or HD.  After looking at the demons, I think it is based on level adjustment.  I found the Dragon Mag with the alternate summon spells. #302. It has some pretty good ideas but I do not like the basis on the tables and I think the CRs are a little messed up.  Also, I think that summoning Archons, Celestials, Demons and Devils should be thier own thing.  I think tying it to the planes is messed up.  Perhaps summon spells should be individual.  Like you have Summon Monster I: Orc.  Summon Monster IX: Orc Army.  (a little humor there).  But that might be too much of a limitation.  As wizards only get what they research, and what they find.  Then again maybe not.  Allowing magical research in a campaign would allow a character to research summoning spells.  I am going to have to think about this lots.  It ties right into the advancement rules.Aaron.</blockquote>