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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1707745" data-attributes="member: 707"><p>I'm not sure if the actual rules are important in this thread at this point <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />, but...</p><p></p><p>If you breed a Celestial Horse with an ordinary Horse (let's assume the Celestial Horse is <em>gated</em> in, and thus very real), you do <strong>NOT</strong> get a Half-Celestial Horse.</p><p></p><p>The Half-Celestial template is not the result of a Celestial animal and ordinary animal mating. It's the result of a full Celestial (Solar, Planetar, Eladrin, etc.) mating with a mortal creature.</p><p></p><p>So, ignoring the fact that, as previously mentioned, the Half-Celestial template cannot be added to a creature with an Int less than 4, you'd have to <em>gate</em> in a Planetar, and have her mate with a horse, to get yourself a Half-Celestial horse.</p><p></p><p>So the first question becomes, what would you get if you mated a Celestial horse with a mortal horse? I don't think the rules cover it. Personally, since the Celestial template is described as being applied to creatures that live on the Celestial planes, I'd imagine it would depend on where the newborn lived. If it was born and raised on the Prime, it would take on the traits of an ordinary horse. If it were born and raised on Mount Celestia, it would take on the traits of a Celestial horse.</p><p></p><p>The second question is, would a <em>summoned</em> rather than <em>gated</em> creature be able to mate and produce offspring? Again, I'm not sure of any rules precedent, though I'd rule no. Summoned creatures are not actually present, and as with polymorph, I'd rule that any part of them separated from the whole would fade away into nothingness at the end of the spell's duration.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 1707745, member: 707"] I'm not sure if the actual rules are important in this thread at this point :p, but... If you breed a Celestial Horse with an ordinary Horse (let's assume the Celestial Horse is [i]gated[/i] in, and thus very real), you do [b]NOT[/b] get a Half-Celestial Horse. The Half-Celestial template is not the result of a Celestial animal and ordinary animal mating. It's the result of a full Celestial (Solar, Planetar, Eladrin, etc.) mating with a mortal creature. So, ignoring the fact that, as previously mentioned, the Half-Celestial template cannot be added to a creature with an Int less than 4, you'd have to [i]gate[/i] in a Planetar, and have her mate with a horse, to get yourself a Half-Celestial horse. So the first question becomes, what would you get if you mated a Celestial horse with a mortal horse? I don't think the rules cover it. Personally, since the Celestial template is described as being applied to creatures that live on the Celestial planes, I'd imagine it would depend on where the newborn lived. If it was born and raised on the Prime, it would take on the traits of an ordinary horse. If it were born and raised on Mount Celestia, it would take on the traits of a Celestial horse. The second question is, would a [i]summoned[/i] rather than [i]gated[/i] creature be able to mate and produce offspring? Again, I'm not sure of any rules precedent, though I'd rule no. Summoned creatures are not actually present, and as with polymorph, I'd rule that any part of them separated from the whole would fade away into nothingness at the end of the spell's duration. [/QUOTE]
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