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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1170098" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>Mah, I ws just reading the SRD:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's very poor quantity of words to base my adjudication upon, but if I have to adjudicate, I adjudicate as I wrote before. Here it only says that the other flanker must be friendly to you, nothing more.</p><p></p><p>I accept that I am adjudicating (that is, the rules may not clearly say I am right <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ). What I don't understand is why are you so sure that I am wrong?</p><p></p><p>The two flankers must be "friendly" to each other to "help" the other get the flanking bonus. You cannot say that the second orc rank is friendly if he doesn't want to be, but maybe if he wanted to be, why can't he give you the flanking bonus? If there were a devil, a demon and a celestial fighting, why couldn't 2 of them "ally" for a round? Obviously it takes 2, and it's not a thing that would easily happen (definitely not in this example), but in any case I don't think that the demon should get +2 only because on the other side of the target there's a devil.</p><p>At first I thought that flanking was a condition on the DEFENDER (having 2 emenies on opposite sides) but from the words it changed my mind that it is a condition on the ATTACKERS, and that's maybe why it grants them +2 to attack and does not instead give the defender a -2 to AC (and in fact a 3rd attacker doesn't get +2 ionly because other attackers are flanking).</p><p></p><p>I understand that there is weak support to my opinion, but I don't see a stronger support to the other way around... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 1170098, member: 1465"] Mah, I ws just reading the SRD: It's very poor quantity of words to base my adjudication upon, but if I have to adjudicate, I adjudicate as I wrote before. Here it only says that the other flanker must be friendly to you, nothing more. I accept that I am adjudicating (that is, the rules may not clearly say I am right :) ). What I don't understand is why are you so sure that I am wrong? The two flankers must be "friendly" to each other to "help" the other get the flanking bonus. You cannot say that the second orc rank is friendly if he doesn't want to be, but maybe if he wanted to be, why can't he give you the flanking bonus? If there were a devil, a demon and a celestial fighting, why couldn't 2 of them "ally" for a round? Obviously it takes 2, and it's not a thing that would easily happen (definitely not in this example), but in any case I don't think that the demon should get +2 only because on the other side of the target there's a devil. At first I thought that flanking was a condition on the DEFENDER (having 2 emenies on opposite sides) but from the words it changed my mind that it is a condition on the ATTACKERS, and that's maybe why it grants them +2 to attack and does not instead give the defender a -2 to AC (and in fact a 3rd attacker doesn't get +2 ionly because other attackers are flanking). I understand that there is weak support to my opinion, but I don't see a stronger support to the other way around... :confused: [/QUOTE]
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