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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 1171191" data-attributes="member: 892"><p>Interesting...my personal take would be to base everything on the caster's or attacker's belief, at the time the event happens (the spell being cast, one attacking, etc.)</p><p></p><p>So, the spellcaster only can affect allies that she knows about, and if an assassin is posing as an ally and fools the caster, the assassin gets the benefits of being an "ally".</p><p></p><p>If invisible/otherwise undetected folk are around, they don't get any benefits from being an ally or an enemy, since the caster does not know about them. They could still be caught in the range of spells like fireball by accident, though.</p><p></p><p>Summoned creatures would attack those the caster thought to be an enemy at the time the spell was cast, unless the caster can give orders otherwise later on.</p><p></p><p>One can't designate others as flankers. That would take both you attacking and believing the other is threatening with intent to possibly attack, and the other threatening with intent to possibly attack (even if only by Aoo) and believing you are attacking. So if someone is invisible and you don't know about them, you don't get the flanking bonus. But if you do know about them, you do get the flanking bonus.</p><p></p><p>Just my take on it, and I could be radically wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 1171191, member: 892"] Interesting...my personal take would be to base everything on the caster's or attacker's belief, at the time the event happens (the spell being cast, one attacking, etc.) So, the spellcaster only can affect allies that she knows about, and if an assassin is posing as an ally and fools the caster, the assassin gets the benefits of being an "ally". If invisible/otherwise undetected folk are around, they don't get any benefits from being an ally or an enemy, since the caster does not know about them. They could still be caught in the range of spells like fireball by accident, though. Summoned creatures would attack those the caster thought to be an enemy at the time the spell was cast, unless the caster can give orders otherwise later on. One can't designate others as flankers. That would take both you attacking and believing the other is threatening with intent to possibly attack, and the other threatening with intent to possibly attack (even if only by Aoo) and believing you are attacking. So if someone is invisible and you don't know about them, you don't get the flanking bonus. But if you do know about them, you do get the flanking bonus. Just my take on it, and I could be radically wrong. [/QUOTE]
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