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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1171368" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>Thinking twice again about the Bless/Bane doubts... Well, I can understand if you see the spells like a help from your God, in which case you could rule that the spell would be able to discern friends and foes with no error.</p><p></p><p>I still prefer to let the caster choose, and for arcane spellcasters it makes more sense than letting the spell choose itself.</p><p></p><p>But in the darkness the thing is complicated. If a Cleric can't see anything, but knows he is surrounded by enemies, and casts Bane to de-moralize them?</p><p></p><p>I don't think the rules help at all, we better count on DM's fair chance to adjudicate properly case by case. I would like to keep letting the caster have the most freedom I can grant: if he doesn't trust the new ally, I'd let him cast Bless but not affect it, if he instead wants to affect it I would let him even if the new ally is truly a disguised foe; at the same time, when casting Bane I would let him affect even the foes which are still hidden to him (I mean for example hidden behind a tree, not disguised as allies), more or less letting him choose to affect everyone except his allies...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 1171368, member: 1465"] Thinking twice again about the Bless/Bane doubts... Well, I can understand if you see the spells like a help from your God, in which case you could rule that the spell would be able to discern friends and foes with no error. I still prefer to let the caster choose, and for arcane spellcasters it makes more sense than letting the spell choose itself. But in the darkness the thing is complicated. If a Cleric can't see anything, but knows he is surrounded by enemies, and casts Bane to de-moralize them? I don't think the rules help at all, we better count on DM's fair chance to adjudicate properly case by case. I would like to keep letting the caster have the most freedom I can grant: if he doesn't trust the new ally, I'd let him cast Bless but not affect it, if he instead wants to affect it I would let him even if the new ally is truly a disguised foe; at the same time, when casting Bane I would let him affect even the foes which are still hidden to him (I mean for example hidden behind a tree, not disguised as allies), more or less letting him choose to affect everyone except his allies... [/QUOTE]
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