Summoning Variant...

[Lord Ravinous]

In another post I had, someone had suggested using the Var. Method of casting summoning spells where u role up you summoned creature before-hand and simply advance him in power for the differant levels of Summons....

Thats my problem, I'm having trouble finding a suitable monster to go with, the lowest CR Demon I found was a Quasit (what i'll be taking as my familiar at 7th level). I was wondering if anyone here has any suggestions on what monsters to choose.

I'm trying to theme my summons to chaotic creatures (my alignment is CN), So if you could help coach me in how to advance them and what creatures would work best w/ this var. rule I'd really appreciate it.

I was thinking about making a Fiendish version of an elf or something, but I don't have the MM on hand (I usually use the SRD files on the Wizards' site).

 

[Iron_Chef]

That was me.

I have a huge compilation of summonable monsters sorted by CR/HD for every level of the spell plus they are drawn from almost every source out there for d20 (not including Monsternomicon, Minions, Nightmares & Dreamscapes 1-2 or Liber Beastarius as I don't own those books). I just updated it with the monsters from Savage Species, however.

I have a list of chaotic neutral/evil "monsters of madness" (of the Cthulhu/Ghaunadaur/Juiblex/Slaadi variety) as well as a separate straight-up CE demon list.

I'll post some later on. Got to go rent 8 Mile with eminem, LOL.

 

[Maximillian]

Check out the newest dragon (306) for its list of new demons. There are 18 in all, six Tanar'ri, six Baatezu and six Yugoloth. Some of the Yugoloth are summon-able by 3rd level characters.

 

[Iron_Chef]

I don't limit these spells strictly to outsiders and elementals.

Summon Monster (Chaos/Madness) I:
Rat-Thing (Call of Cthulhu)

II:
Darkmantle (MM)
Fiendish Gibberling (Monsters of Faerun)
Krenshar (MM)
Tcho-Tcho (Call of Cthulhu)
Terror From Beyond (CofC)

III:
Cave Fisher (Tome of Horrors)
Choker (MM)
Chosen One (MofF)
Deep One (CofC)
Insect From Shaggai (CofC)

IV:
Allip (MM)
Boggle
Cockatrice (MM)
Dimensional Shambler (CofC)
Doppelganger (MM)
Ooze, Gelatinous Cube (MM)
Grick (MM)
Hook Horror (MM2)
Hound of Tindalos (CofC)
Phantom Fungus (MM)
Shadow (MM)
Spectral Hunter (CofC)

V:
Aballin (MofF)
Elder Thing (CofC)
Ettercap (MM)
Grell (MM2)
Malaugrym (MofF)
Mimic (MM)
Nightgaunt (CofC)
Ooze, Gray (MM)
Otyugh (MM)
Owlbear (MM)
Star Vampire (CofC)
Sliering Tracker (Tome of Horrors)

VI:
Catoblepas (MM2)
Cloaker (MM)
Demon, Yochlol (MofF)
Ettin (MM)
Fiendish Carrion Crawler (MM)
Ghaunadan (MofF)
Nishruu (MofF)
Ooze, Ochre Jelly (MM)
Peryton (MofF)
Phaerimm (MofF)
Pudding, Dun (Tome of Horrors)
Pudding, White (Tome of Horrors)
Rast (MM)
Servitor of the Outer Gods (CofC)
Spider of Leng (CofC)
Stone Roper (Tome of Horrors)
Worm That Walks (CofC)

VII:
Chaos Beast (MM)
Chuul (MM)
Cloaker Lord (MofF)
Jelly, Mustard (Tome of Horrors)
Phasm (MM)
Pudding, Brown (Tome of Horrors)
Sharn (no class levels) (MofF)
Slaad, Red
Soul Eater (Tome of Horrors)
Trapper (Tome of Horrors)

VIII:
Bodak (MM)
Cthonian (CofC)
Crimson Death (MM2)
Formless Spawn of Tsathoggua (CofC)
Slaad, Blue (MM)
Slug, Giant

IX:
Colour Out of Space (CofC)
Dark Young of Shub-Niggurath (CofC)
Demodand, Farrastu (Tome of Horrors)
Doppelganger, Greater (MofF)
Flying Polyp (CofC)
Froghemoth (Tome of Horrors)
Great Race of Yith (CofC)
Roper (MM)
Slaad, Green (MM)
Slaad, Gray (MM)

Take the Gelatinous template from Savage Species and make ooze versions of other monsters, hehe. Or simply take other monsters (like Orcs), use their stats, and say they are ooze monsters or something "from beyond" but this doesn't change their actual stats, just creature type (humanoid to ooze, frex). Or use the "Pseudonatural" template from Tome & Blood's Alienist PrC to make tentacled horrors from the Far Realm.

 

[Iron_Chef]

Was this helpful? Should I bother to post my demon list?

 

[Alchemist]

You should indeed. I'm interested, for one.

 

[Lord Ravinous]

Please go ahead, I'm interested too.