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<blockquote data-quote="TaranTheWanderer" data-source="post: 8086719" data-attributes="member: 15882">I'm playing in a game (we're 10th, I'm playing a wizard) where a demon keeps randomly showing up to try to kill us.&nbsp; We kill her, she goes poof and disappears.My plan was to use Contact Other Plane to find out her True Name**, Then summon her in a Magic Circle and use Planar Binding to force her to tell us who is summoning her and trying to kill us.&nbsp; Then we wanted to finish her off permanently.I seem to remember, in 3.5, there was a difference between summoning a creature (using summon Monster): which had a duration and, if the creature was killed, they'd reform in their plan of existence and; Calling a Monster (I can't remember the spell) but, essentially, you needed a magic circle to keep it bound and you could force it to deal with you etc...the down side was, if it escaped, it could run free and wreck havoc.&nbsp; The upside, was, if you killed it, it was permanently dead.So, I was looking for the appropriate spell in 5e to enact my plan and couldn't find any..&nbsp; Planar Binding only changes the duration of regular summoning spells.&nbsp; Summon Fiend and Summon Devil only last 1 hour and the creature's aren't permanently slain.&nbsp; Also, these are Xanathar's spells, so I'm not including them in the list of 'legal' spells.&nbsp; All I could find was Gate...but I'm fairly certain there was another way to do this.Any help would be appreciated.*as an aside, given the lack of spells in 5e to summon creatures permanently, I'm wonder if &nbsp;1.&nbsp; we have a traitor among our trusted NPCs who keep summoning her using the Xanathar spells or;&nbsp;2.&nbsp; The DM is homebrewing somthing.**I suppose I could use Contact Other Plane to try find out the name of our assassin, but this demon is a bit of a nemesis.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TaranTheWanderer, post: 8086719, member: 15882"] I'm playing in a game (we're 10th, I'm playing a wizard) where a demon keeps randomly showing up to try to kill us. We kill her, she goes [I]poof[/I] and disappears. My plan was to use Contact Other Plane to find out her True Name**, Then summon her in a Magic Circle and use Planar Binding to force her to tell us who is summoning her and trying to kill us. Then we wanted to finish her off permanently. I seem to remember, in 3.5, there was a difference between summoning a creature (using summon Monster): which had a duration and, if the creature was killed, they'd reform in their plan of existence and; Calling a Monster (I can't remember the spell) but, essentially, you needed a magic circle to keep it bound and you could force it to deal with you etc...the down side was, if it escaped, it could run free and wreck havoc. The upside, was, if you killed it, it was permanently dead. So, I was looking for the appropriate spell in 5e to enact my plan and couldn't find any.. Planar Binding only changes the duration of regular summoning spells. Summon Fiend and Summon Devil only last 1 hour and the creature's aren't permanently slain. Also, these are Xanathar's spells, so I'm not including them in the list of 'legal' spells. All I could find was Gate...but I'm fairly certain there was another way to do this. Any help would be appreciated. *as an aside, given the lack of spells in 5e to summon creatures permanently, I'm wonder if 1. we have a traitor among our trusted NPCs who keep summoning her using the Xanathar spells or; 2. The DM is homebrewing somthing. **I suppose I could use Contact Other Plane to try find out the name of our assassin, but this demon is a bit of a nemesis. [/QUOTE]

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