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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 9850058" data-attributes="member: 6779310">For me, Several editions have been downgradesTOR 2e was a downgrade to me. It nerfed Traits, reduced the benefit of hope spends, forced hope to be before rolling.Twilight 2000 2.2 was a mixed bag going from 2.0's 3 explicit and 5 total difficulties to 2.2's  5 and 7, respectively was good, but the move from 1d10 ≤ skill to 1d20 ≤ att+skill wasn't. Around my birthday, Marc uploaded 2.0 to Drivethru...Arrowflight 2e was a HUGE downgrade... it nerfed starting characters pretty badly by moving from Deep7's DEEP engine to their XPg engine. Roughly halved success rates, accounting for difficulty mods. 3rd retains the XPg engine. Brilliant setting, tho'. 2nd presents it better than 1st, while ruining the game portion. Every Traveller named edition (except the CT subeditions:  1.0 aka 1977, 2.0 aka 1981, 2.1 aka TTB, and 2.2 aka Starter Traveller) is a mostly different game engine. This is part of why Traveller's long noted for edition wars. whether each is good or not is a personal issue; I found T4 especially unpleasant to use, and TNE a bit unpleasant, but due to task system issues.Pendragon 5th ed... dropped the magic system from 4th. Strictly a downgrade on capability.</blockquote>