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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cbwjm" data-source="post: 9851501" data-attributes="member: 6788732">I thought the 2e upgrade of M&M was great for sure, I think the 3e update was fine, I'm not sure if it was strictly necessary but I did appreciate the DC versions with all of the heroes and villains.For DnD, I started with BECMI before moving to 2e which I thought was an upgrade. 3e when it came out I thought was an upgrade, 4e was too different as a game for it to be an upgrade or downgrade, rather it felt like a similar but different game, but it did provide a bridge which helped 5e which felt like an upgrade of what came before. 5.5e I don't really feel was an upgrade, more of a sidegrade, but since it seems to have pushed me to look at the earlier editions again, maybe it was a downgrade... Perhaps in a few years I'll move from BECMI/OSE to 2e and so on.Star wars d20 had a revised version which felt like an upgrade, feeling better than the original version, then Saga came out which felt like a definite upgrade over the older d20 version with a lot more customisation (though the way the force worked felt like a downgrade since they were largely encounter powers, at least you didn't need to put skill points into every force power you wanted to use).</blockquote>