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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 1114033" data-attributes="member: 111">I think that Sunder is made in the place of a melee attack and that the table is in error.This is the easiest, most consistent reading of the rules (consistent with "Disarm," and other special attacks that use a melee attack).<deleted - Hypersmurf pointed out my error>.  Supporting the fact that the table is less important that the text is that:1.  When trying to find out how Sunder works, one would go to the text, not the table and2.  <deleted - Hypersmurf pointed out my error>.  A table like this is generally a quick reference only and not definitive - the definitive rule is in the text.Needs errata.[/b</blockquote>