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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5707691" data-attributes="member: 92305">The Optional Rule is the Sunder when Attack = Defense.&nbsp;The other rule, Lock Weapons, is not optional, but since it is a combat maneuver, it could be argued that a character doesn't have to use it, if he doesn't want to. The question would be, though, who decides? I'd say the attacker since the defender would always decide against it and nothing would happen.&nbsp;So, you could look at it like this....&nbsp;When Attack Throw exactly equals AC--&nbsp;1. The attacker can decide to Lock Weapons or simply consider his strike a miss.&nbsp;2. If the Optional Sunder Rule is used, a Sunder is resolved, and then the attacker can decide to Lock Weapons or not.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The way I think I'm going to play it in the future is: use the Optional Rule, but if the defender uses a shield, then the Sunder is against the shield and Lock Weapons not possible. If the defender does not use a shield, then Sunder vs. defender's weapon and then resolve Lock Weapons if the defender's weapon doesn't break.&nbsp;That seems closest to what was intended in the rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 5707691, member: 92305"] The Optional Rule is the Sunder when Attack = Defense. The other rule, Lock Weapons, is not optional, but since it is a combat maneuver, it could be argued that a character doesn't have to use it, if he doesn't want to. The question would be, though, who decides? I'd say the attacker since the defender would always decide against it and nothing would happen. So, you could look at it like this.... When Attack Throw exactly equals AC-- 1. The attacker can decide to Lock Weapons or simply consider his strike a miss. 2. If the Optional Sunder Rule is used, a Sunder is resolved, and then the attacker can decide to Lock Weapons or not. The way I think I'm going to play it in the future is: use the Optional Rule, but if the defender uses a shield, then the Sunder is against the shield and Lock Weapons not possible. If the defender does not use a shield, then Sunder vs. defender's weapon and then resolve Lock Weapons if the defender's weapon doesn't break. That seems closest to what was intended in the rules. [/QUOTE]

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