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<blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 3403040" data-attributes="member: 18363"><p>Sounds like the "Regenerate" spell will finally see a little use! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Seriously, it could bring up a few problems. For instance, if you allow a sundering of a beast's claw from its body, why not also allow the sundering of a hand or arm holding a weapon? If you allow the sundering of a lion's paw (ie: foot), then why not allow it for, say, centaurs (they can strike with those things, as I recall) or even - perhaps - humans, reducing their movement?</p><p></p><p>It is a notable can o' worms, but if it is not allowed then you have to wonder why sundering is allowed at all? Why would the (comparatively softer) flesh and bone of a monster be impossible to sunder when the (much harder) blade carried by another creature is sunderable? I can see stating that a natural weapon could not be disarmed, as it is attached, but to state that it cannot be sundered seems to increase the power of having natural weapons notably, while also further weakening an already weak form of attack (due to the DCs involved and the many creatures other than humanoids (and sometimes even them) that use natural attacks). </p><p></p><p>It is a complex issue. By the RaW, perhaps it should not be allowed. By common sense, it most definitely should be allowed. Of course, we already know that D&D defies common sense at least 19 times before breakfast each day. Also, as already stated, it gives a use for the (currently unusable) Regenerate spell. Of course, what you can use, so too can your foes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nyeshet, post: 3403040, member: 18363"] Sounds like the "Regenerate" spell will finally see a little use! :D Seriously, it could bring up a few problems. For instance, if you allow a sundering of a beast's claw from its body, why not also allow the sundering of a hand or arm holding a weapon? If you allow the sundering of a lion's paw (ie: foot), then why not allow it for, say, centaurs (they can strike with those things, as I recall) or even - perhaps - humans, reducing their movement? It is a notable can o' worms, but if it is not allowed then you have to wonder why sundering is allowed at all? Why would the (comparatively softer) flesh and bone of a monster be impossible to sunder when the (much harder) blade carried by another creature is sunderable? I can see stating that a natural weapon could not be disarmed, as it is attached, but to state that it cannot be sundered seems to increase the power of having natural weapons notably, while also further weakening an already weak form of attack (due to the DCs involved and the many creatures other than humanoids (and sometimes even them) that use natural attacks). It is a complex issue. By the RaW, perhaps it should not be allowed. By common sense, it most definitely should be allowed. Of course, we already know that D&D defies common sense at least 19 times before breakfast each day. Also, as already stated, it gives a use for the (currently unusable) Regenerate spell. Of course, what you can use, so too can your foes. [/QUOTE]
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