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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1781514" data-attributes="member: 1656">The closest question to this in an FAQ is one on using touch spells in the 3E Main FAQ.The relevant bit:There is no set limit to how far away a spellcaster can bewhen delivering a touch spell, but the basic requirement isbeing able to reach into the space the creature occupies. Forexample, a human occupies a 5-foot space. Thus, a foe must beable to reach into that space to deliver a touch attack, even if apiece of the human’s equipment (such as 50 feet of danglingrope or a manufactured reach weapon) sticks out of the space.A creature with natural reach is an exception to this rule—you can use a touch spell against such a creature by touchingone of its natural reach weapons, even if its body is out of yourreach. Such a tactic might require some preparation, however.If a creature can reach you with a natural weapon (such as abite, claw, or tentacle), you can ready an action to use a touchspell against that natural weapon when it is used to make amelee attack against you. Though casting a spell usuallyrequires a standard action, you can cast the spell and try totouch the target as your readied action, so long as the spell’scasting time is 1 action or less. (This is just like casting a spelland making a touch attack as part of your regular action.) If thespell has a longer casting time, you must first cast it and thenhold the charge until it can be delivered to pull off thismaneuver.Extrapolating from this, both the scenarios you have proposed would be possible.-Hyp.</blockquote>

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