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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Errant" data-source="post: 203503" data-attributes="member: 1926">QUOTE]Originally posted by kreynolds OK. I can't take it anymore. Are you always this dense? What the hell do you think "attacking a ring" is!?! Attacking a ring is "Attacking a held, carried, or worn object", which is exactly what I said! What the hell is wrong with you man? Forget it. I could get more useful feedback if I held this conversation with a friggin' matchbox. Thanks. </blockquote>Hey, dude, take a breath, chill. If you remember, when I said “I like to abide by the principle “don’t say ‘no’, just tell them how hard it would be” except where there’s a specific rule that says otherwise, so just in case it'd help someone else who thinks as I do, I offered my take.”, (emphasis added)You said, “That's funny. 'Cause there is a specific rule that says otherwise. It's called attacking a worn or carried object!”And of course my response brought us back to your dummy-spit. My point was, the official rule, or at least the section I quoted, says nothing about what to with the damage “left over” from sundering a worn/held/carried item. Sorry if that went over your head.Now I don’t expect any set of rules to cover every possible eventuality, but (to my knowledge) they don’t say the extra damage is ignored, the rules don’t say its passed on the wearer. So if you (or anyone else who has a polite opinion they care to offer) know of a section that covers this, please point it out, I take part in these discussions to learn too.  If you don’t, then doesn’t that give us room to discuss our interpretations & approaches for handling the gap?Assuming I haven’t missed a rule somewhere, I suggested making the ring harder to hit & passing on the extra damage to the wearer because (a) to me that potentially adds some heroic drama, imagery & effectiveness to the PCs actions; & (b) the extra effectiveness of the attack (destroying the ring AND damaging the wearer) is balanced by the increased difficulty of pulling it off.(P.S. I ignored the xmen d20 crack because I made the Adamantium typo & I thought it was made in good humour. Was I wrong to think that?).Edit - Corrected more of my typos, plus it took me ages to get post this thanks to the cookie problem, so apologies to the innocent if I'm dredging up a dead topic.[/QUOTE]

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