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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shadowlore" data-source="post: 557374" data-attributes="member: 9509">No, I don't remember that, where is it? It doesn't make sense to me that they do anyway. Otherwise, why would there be tiny versions of certain weapons, why would the cost of a tower sheild for a halfling by the same as a tower sheild for a giant, if they are so vastly different in material costs? Why would a tower shield for a giant (L) be the same size category for a human (M) if they are scaled? The size category *does* make a difference for sundering, since you can  only sunder something no more than one size category larger than the weapon used in the sunder. Hence, a dagger can not sunder a large sheild (or a greatsword), and bastard sword (or even greatsword) could not sunder a giant-sized tower shield.If a fighter equips a tower shield, and a giant kills him and takes it, it does not change size ot fit the giant.  If you make a giant-sized tower shield, sure it scaled to the giant -- when it was made.The only armor I know of that scales to the user is magical armor. :^)Due to size categories, and weight, etc. it *does* matter if a shield was made for a medium, tiny, Large, or Huge creature. Especially for sundering.  According to "Strike a Weapon" (PH-126), I'd say that the given scales are for medium sized creatures w/shields. I don't know of any DMs that would rule a halfling-sized tower shield to be a size category of "Huge".  Likewise, I doubt many (if indeed any) DMs would allow a halfling with a dagger, or even a short sword, to sunder a giant-sized "large shield". I would likely rule that such a shield is a category "Huge" item, and thus could only be sundered by weapons   that are sized large and above, i.e. a greatsword.BTW, one or two hands has no effect on whether or not an item can be sundered. A two handed sword weilded by a human can not be weilde done handed, yet can still be targeted by a sunder attack -all things being equal. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />So, to summarize my probably wandering post:Sunder shields:Absolutely, the PH says for teh sunder feat to see "Strike a Weapon", which says shields. It does not at *all* eliminate a tower shield by virtue of it being a tower shield.Sunder a tower shield? Yes -- if your weapon is large enough! This is true of *any* shield. A dagger against a large shield? Nope. A longsword? Yup.Well, must sleep and have two other threads to look at first. Hope I didn't come off rude or anything. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Bill</blockquote>

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