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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Daedrova" data-source="post: 6354546" data-attributes="member: 11835">Hahaha.  Seriously though… how?  Where is this story?  How did show go from “murdered and non-existent” to “hidden in a bear?”Yeah… Telamont and the princes outmatched Elminster and ALL the Chosen of Mystra (together, at the same time) in the Return of the Archwizards trilogy.   Further, per their written stats, Telamont was a more powerful caster than either of them.  The following is from 3e sources (when epic levels were a significant measure of power):Lords of Darkness pg. 82: High Prince Telamont Tanthul (NE male shade Wiz 20/Acm 5/Sha 10).  Shadow Adept and Archmage levels stack with Wizard for spellcasting.  That makes Telamont a 35th level wizard. FR Campaign Setting pg. 7: Elminster, male human (Chosen of Mystra) Ftr 1/Rog 2/Clr 3/Wiz 20/Acm 5/Epic 4.  Those Fighter, Rogue and Cleric levels do nothing for a spellcaster.  So Elminster was a 29th level wizard.  Elminster only lost power after the Spellplague, no longer a chosen.  His Int was only 24, which was low considering you could easily have above 30 by level 20 (and significant because of how ability is tied to saves, slots).Telamont is more powerful by 6 LEVELS.By the way, Larloch was 3 levels below Telamont.  From pg. 161 of Lords of Darkness Larloch is a lich Wiz 20/Epic 12… (“Epic was a placeholder for “epic wizard levels” just before the release of the Epic Level Handbook).  Both have lived since the time of Netheril.  I could see him almost matching Telamont outside of the enclave … if they had reason to fight it would be an epic battle.  However within his own enclave and the power of his own mythal, there is absolutely no way either of these two could defeat Lord Shadow. Where is all this written - in The Herald novel?  Why does Larloch show up?  I want to read this to find out, but I don’t want to pay for a book to simply become even more annoyed…  Because this all sounds like complete bulls***.Wait, you are joking.  Right?The only possible explanation would have to be one of several plans Telamont had; this being to deceive Elminster and/or others in order to complete another, more important goal.</blockquote>

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