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<blockquote data-quote="Malcer" data-source="post: 1966592" data-attributes="member: 11357"><p>We had a discussion in our group last night whether it is possible to target a Composite Longbow with the ranged touch attack of an Eldritch Blast in order to sunder it. </p><p></p><p>In the PHB (p. 158) under to the Special Attack Sunder it says that you can sunder with slashing and bludgeoning melee weapons which is accomplished by an Opposed Attack Roll There is also a reference to carried and worn objects that can be targetted by an attack when one manages to hit the AC 10 + size modifier + dex modiefier of the carrying or wearing characters. While ranged weapons are not explicitley mentioned, it seems that there is nothing to prohibit targeting objects with ranged weapons either. In addition, the PhB (p.165) says under Smashing an Object, that you ranged Weapon damage is half against objects, which is mirrored by the description of the Eldritch Blast. </p><p></p><p>The Ranged Sunder Feat in Complete Warrior added to the confusion because it says that you cause full damage with slashing and bludgeoning ranged weapons as well as being able to do half damage with a ranged piercing weapon. In addition it says under Normal that "Objects take only half damage from ranged weapons (other than siege engines and the like). You can <u>only </u>sunder with a melee attack using slashing and bludgeoning weapon" (CW p. 104). </p><p></p><p>Does that mean that whenever an attended object in essence becomes a weapon or a shield, it is impossible to target it with a ranged weapon or weapon-like spell or spell-like ability? For example, one could target the wand that a wizard wields, but it is impossible to target the weapon of a fighter unless one has the Ranged Sunder Feat? (Target in the sense of using ranged weapon or weapon-like spell effect like Eldritch Blast, Scorching Ray and Disintegrate...)</p><p> </p><p>We had a heated discussion about that last night (with me taking the position that it should be possible to make the attempt that I outlined in the example above) and I was accused of interpreting the rules in a way that is broken. </p><p></p><p>Please help me to sort this out.</p><p></p><p>Thx, for your help</p><p>Malcer</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Malcer, post: 1966592, member: 11357"] We had a discussion in our group last night whether it is possible to target a Composite Longbow with the ranged touch attack of an Eldritch Blast in order to sunder it. In the PHB (p. 158) under to the Special Attack Sunder it says that you can sunder with slashing and bludgeoning melee weapons which is accomplished by an Opposed Attack Roll There is also a reference to carried and worn objects that can be targetted by an attack when one manages to hit the AC 10 + size modifier + dex modiefier of the carrying or wearing characters. While ranged weapons are not explicitley mentioned, it seems that there is nothing to prohibit targeting objects with ranged weapons either. In addition, the PhB (p.165) says under Smashing an Object, that you ranged Weapon damage is half against objects, which is mirrored by the description of the Eldritch Blast. The Ranged Sunder Feat in Complete Warrior added to the confusion because it says that you cause full damage with slashing and bludgeoning ranged weapons as well as being able to do half damage with a ranged piercing weapon. In addition it says under Normal that "Objects take only half damage from ranged weapons (other than siege engines and the like). You can [U]only [/U]sunder with a melee attack using slashing and bludgeoning weapon" (CW p. 104). Does that mean that whenever an attended object in essence becomes a weapon or a shield, it is impossible to target it with a ranged weapon or weapon-like spell or spell-like ability? For example, one could target the wand that a wizard wields, but it is impossible to target the weapon of a fighter unless one has the Ranged Sunder Feat? (Target in the sense of using ranged weapon or weapon-like spell effect like Eldritch Blast, Scorching Ray and Disintegrate...) We had a heated discussion about that last night (with me taking the position that it should be possible to make the attempt that I outlined in the example above) and I was accused of interpreting the rules in a way that is broken. Please help me to sort this out. Thx, for your help Malcer [/QUOTE]
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