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<blockquote data-quote="Ednoc" data-source="post: 8468134" data-attributes="member: 6815535"><p>Hi!</p><p></p><p>I'm running the Sunless Citadel for 5 players. Last night, the party went to the room 50, where they encountered a Shadow. Except... They didn't really win against it.</p><p></p><p>Our party composition :</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Psion</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Crusader/Barbarian</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Druid (Deceased)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Factotum</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue</li> </ul><p>Things went really poorly. They didn't manage to damage it, since they only have 1 magic weapon and the psion missed his spell against the creature. (Rolled under 50%) The Druid wasn't really at the right place and I wanted to "scare her". But the thing is, this character didn't really have a good Strength stat and I ended up on shoting her "by accident". Then, the rest of the party flew away, but let Erky, the gnome, behind and he died too.</p><p></p><p>I tend to roll really well for monsters and these situations happen really often. Which is funny, because, as I player, I can't roll over 10 for like 3+ hours, for some reason...</p><p></p><p>So, the druid is dead, the fighter/cleric npc is dead... They cleaned up almsot everything else in the dungeon and now... I don't really know what to do, to be honest. Since humanoid killed by a shadow become shadow themselves, that would mean there is now 3 Shadows protecting the shrine.</p><p></p><p>Since a new character is going to be made, it's going to be behind in term of experience. Plus, I made some efforts in order to make the dungeon more... Alive. And I don't think Belak and his last minions would stay here, waiting for the PCs, doing nothing and don't even notice that... In fact... All the others are dead. (All the bugbears, undead, most goblins...)</p><p></p><p>What should I do ?</p><p>1. How to deal with 3 shadows at this level? (2-3) OR maybe should I do something else with them?</p><p>2. What to do with Belak & friends? Should I "spawn" some reinforcement into the dungeon? Could some goblin make it to the Fortress? Should the Kobolds chase the Goblins/Hobgoblins civilians away from the fortress? Could Belak replace the goblins with more Twig Blight? Or reanimate goblins/bugbears as undead? (Even if I have honestly no idea how he can manage to have undead under his control in the first place...)</p><p>3. Is having some more creatures a good idea? The module is going to be a bit longer, but I think it could be a good way to give the players more XP, especially for these who died. (Because this is not the first dead pc...) OR should I make the rest of the dungeon easier ?</p><p>I didn't change too many things, except update monsters stats from 3.0 to 3.5, nothing fancy... But I "pumped up" Belak, Bradford and Sharwyn a bit to make the fight a bit more challenging since I allow every book in existence for my players, it didn't seem very fair if, as a DM, I couldn't do that too.</p><p></p><p>Thanks in advance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ednoc, post: 8468134, member: 6815535"] Hi! I'm running the Sunless Citadel for 5 players. Last night, the party went to the room 50, where they encountered a Shadow. Except... They didn't really win against it. Our party composition : [LIST] [*]Psion [*]Crusader/Barbarian [*]Druid (Deceased) [*]Factotum [*]Rogue [/LIST] Things went really poorly. They didn't manage to damage it, since they only have 1 magic weapon and the psion missed his spell against the creature. (Rolled under 50%) The Druid wasn't really at the right place and I wanted to "scare her". But the thing is, this character didn't really have a good Strength stat and I ended up on shoting her "by accident". Then, the rest of the party flew away, but let Erky, the gnome, behind and he died too. I tend to roll really well for monsters and these situations happen really often. Which is funny, because, as I player, I can't roll over 10 for like 3+ hours, for some reason... So, the druid is dead, the fighter/cleric npc is dead... They cleaned up almsot everything else in the dungeon and now... I don't really know what to do, to be honest. Since humanoid killed by a shadow become shadow themselves, that would mean there is now 3 Shadows protecting the shrine. Since a new character is going to be made, it's going to be behind in term of experience. Plus, I made some efforts in order to make the dungeon more... Alive. And I don't think Belak and his last minions would stay here, waiting for the PCs, doing nothing and don't even notice that... In fact... All the others are dead. (All the bugbears, undead, most goblins...) What should I do ? 1. How to deal with 3 shadows at this level? (2-3) OR maybe should I do something else with them? 2. What to do with Belak & friends? Should I "spawn" some reinforcement into the dungeon? Could some goblin make it to the Fortress? Should the Kobolds chase the Goblins/Hobgoblins civilians away from the fortress? Could Belak replace the goblins with more Twig Blight? Or reanimate goblins/bugbears as undead? (Even if I have honestly no idea how he can manage to have undead under his control in the first place...) 3. Is having some more creatures a good idea? The module is going to be a bit longer, but I think it could be a good way to give the players more XP, especially for these who died. (Because this is not the first dead pc...) OR should I make the rest of the dungeon easier ? I didn't change too many things, except update monsters stats from 3.0 to 3.5, nothing fancy... But I "pumped up" Belak, Bradford and Sharwyn a bit to make the fight a bit more challenging since I allow every book in existence for my players, it didn't seem very fair if, as a DM, I couldn't do that too. Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]
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