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Super skilled versus Daxamite (aka Karate Kid vs. Mon-El)
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<blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 405162" data-attributes="member: 63"><p>Ah, but you yourself use the term 'superhuman' to describe the character's power.</p><p></p><p>So yeah, Karate Kid the martial artist knows how to channel his ki and direct his body's force to strike just the right spot, so that he deals more damage than any normal man can.</p><p></p><p>And then Superman, simply by virtue of his race, can punch and deal more damage than any normal man can.</p><p></p><p>There's no real difference, rules wise. Sure, you can try to be complex and make Karate Kid a 50th level monk so his unarmed attacks deal 3d20+20 points of damage, but he still has a 15 Strength, so he can't beat Arnold Schwarzenegger in an arm wrestling competition. Or you can use a more elegant system and just give Karate Kid super powers. You can call them whatever you want, but they function just like super powers. Heck, Batman has some mild super powers, because he is tougher than a real person should be, and it's not just because he's high level.</p><p></p><p>As a parallel, imagine two fighters -- a rapier-wielding duelist and a greatsword-using strongman. They both have Cleave and Great Cleave. They're teammates, and one day, in a fight, the duelist and the strongman are both attacked by a horde of Goblins.</p><p></p><p>The duelist gets his hit in, kills a Goblin, then uses Great Cleave, taking out 5 Goblins total. In the same round, the strongman kills a Goblin, and Great Cleaves through a total of 5 Goblins too. But they didn't do it the same way. For the strongman, a Great Cleave might literally be just ripping through 5 Goblins in a semi-circle, but for the duelist, the Great Cleave meant that he probably lashed out his blade, whipped it high, low, disemboweling one Goblin, cutting open the throat of another, beheading a third, then stabbing through the eye of a fourth, and finally withdrawing his blade, flipping it backwards and stabbing behind himself to impale the fifth Goblin in the gut.</p><p></p><p>They both used the same rules, but anyone can tell they have different fighting styles.</p><p></p><p>So just use super powers rules, and let the rules do what you want them to, rather than having them tell you what your character has to be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RangerWickett, post: 405162, member: 63"] Ah, but you yourself use the term 'superhuman' to describe the character's power. So yeah, Karate Kid the martial artist knows how to channel his ki and direct his body's force to strike just the right spot, so that he deals more damage than any normal man can. And then Superman, simply by virtue of his race, can punch and deal more damage than any normal man can. There's no real difference, rules wise. Sure, you can try to be complex and make Karate Kid a 50th level monk so his unarmed attacks deal 3d20+20 points of damage, but he still has a 15 Strength, so he can't beat Arnold Schwarzenegger in an arm wrestling competition. Or you can use a more elegant system and just give Karate Kid super powers. You can call them whatever you want, but they function just like super powers. Heck, Batman has some mild super powers, because he is tougher than a real person should be, and it's not just because he's high level. As a parallel, imagine two fighters -- a rapier-wielding duelist and a greatsword-using strongman. They both have Cleave and Great Cleave. They're teammates, and one day, in a fight, the duelist and the strongman are both attacked by a horde of Goblins. The duelist gets his hit in, kills a Goblin, then uses Great Cleave, taking out 5 Goblins total. In the same round, the strongman kills a Goblin, and Great Cleaves through a total of 5 Goblins too. But they didn't do it the same way. For the strongman, a Great Cleave might literally be just ripping through 5 Goblins in a semi-circle, but for the duelist, the Great Cleave meant that he probably lashed out his blade, whipped it high, low, disemboweling one Goblin, cutting open the throat of another, beheading a third, then stabbing through the eye of a fourth, and finally withdrawing his blade, flipping it backwards and stabbing behind himself to impale the fifth Goblin in the gut. They both used the same rules, but anyone can tell they have different fighting styles. So just use super powers rules, and let the rules do what you want them to, rather than having them tell you what your character has to be. [/QUOTE]
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