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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fieari" data-source="post: 5708772" data-attributes="member: 16221">Hrm.  Interesting.  I'm new (but eager, it's already been 5000x easier to prepare sessions) to DMing 4e, so I don't know if this is true or not, but I remember those threads with people posting how to demolish Orcus without breaking a sweat, so you may be right.On the bright-side, it does mean that I won't feel guilty allowing the group to level up to lvl2 or 3 before bringing her out.Admit it Krusty, you just don't like my money, that's all.Hrm.  Again, it might be my lack of experience, but it LOOKS to me that PCs should be able to handle it, by the math.  We'll see though... especially if I let the PCs level up once or twice first.Hrm.  Iiinteresting.  The DMG1 does suggest giving multiple rounds of actions to solos as a possibility, but I haven't seen ANY examples of said monsters in any book, so I discounted it as lazy design.  It does make design easy (less powers you have to make and keep track of)... I don't think I'll use it when I send the Nymph at my players, but I'll certainly keep it in mind for the future.  I forsee myself designing Supersolos with some regularity.Ah, now THAT'S good advice, now that I think about it.  Perhaps a note that the action points can only be spent to diversify attacks, not concentrate them?  Darn, how would you even WORD that?  Since I'll be DMing, it won't be a problem now that you've pointed it out to me, but it would be nice to formalize it...Err... didn't I write that?  Skill challenge at the start, in the middle, and at the end.  I suppose any of the three could be removed to tweak the challenge-- so perhaps there's no initial defense, but there is one that prevents bloodying.  Or perhaps you just can't finish it off until the challenge is passed.But I kinda like the idea that there are multiple KINDS of challenges that must be faced in the middle of the fight.Wait, really?  Uh, let me see... according to the DMG chart... hrm, yes, a lvl5 standard gives the same as lvl1 elite, so that matches.  And a lvl10 standard gives the same as a lvl1 solo.  My goodness... I wouldn't have thought it.  I guess 1,200xp IS the proper value.  My goodness.  And here I was debating 800xp and thinking it too high...The Winter Nymph above probably won't appear for AT LEAST another three weeks.  The game just got started, but will be heavily fae-based, with dragons as the initial plot hook.  In fact, next session they'll be facing an adult or older red dragon exclusively in the form of a skill challenge (dodging out of the way while the dragon is attacking something else).  That's kinda what gave me the idea for this-- that and considering how one might fight a monster the size of a castle.  Skill checks added to combat just seems like it should work.I will tell you how the adult red as skill challenge thing goes.  They'll be on river barges, supposedly prepared for dragon attack via escort boat manned with ballistae.  The red will be focused on sinking the ships and taking out the escorts, while two wyrmlings attempt to steal anything edible or shiny.  I expect the situation to end in the boats sinking and the players running for their lives, but hope it'll be fair enough that they CAN drive off the dragons.Edit: Just so you know, I <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-fan-creations-house-rules/312798-supersolo-rules.html" target="_blank">crossposted</a> this to the 4e House Rule board to see what non-IH players thought.  The few who responded seem skeptical to the very idea of anything more powerful than a solo for a given level.</blockquote>

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