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<blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 6082890" data-attributes="member: 78958">Not my build btw, but I'm reasonably sure that Karmic Strike and Robilar's Gambit are considered to generate two separate 'opportunities' (for the purpose of making an AoO) at the same time. Similarly, if the opponent misses, Robilar's Gambit and Defensive Throw both kick in and generate one regular attack of opportunity from Robilar's (make that two strikes plus potential trip plus potential-potential followup with Double Hit, High Sword Low Axe, and Improved Trip), and one trip attempt made as an AoO from Defensive Throw. At least, that's how I understand it.I agree it's far from intuitive, but by RAW I'm finding no serious flaw. The FAQ is silent, and I know of no other rulings on this matter. If you fluff it the right way, you could say the following: &quot;Combining Karmic Strike/Defensive Throw with Robilar's Gambit is a serious investment into a risky, rarely taught technique. You learn how to invite disaster but be all but assured of devastating retaliation. While your opponent is busy gloating about the easy hit he got in, you strike with lightning swiftness, using the adrenaline rush from the wound you just took. You're using all weapons at your disposal to take him down at all costs, ignoring the pain for the moment.&quot;Remember that a melee attack that &quot;hits&quot; may be envisioned as a lot of scratches or bruises from a quick exchange of multiple blows; a one-two-three combination, the first of which brings the shield down, the second glances off the helmet, and the third bites into the opponent's shoulder; or a quick double slash across one cheek. Similarly, three hits in rapid succession could be described as a clean stab, followed by a twisting of the weapon in the wound, followed by ripping the weapon out with a gush of blood. Long as it's RAW, you can almost always come up with a decent description of what just happened.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Empirate, post: 6082890, member: 78958"] Not my build btw, but I'm reasonably sure that Karmic Strike and Robilar's Gambit are considered to generate two separate 'opportunities' (for the purpose of making an AoO) at the same time. Similarly, if the opponent misses, Robilar's Gambit and Defensive Throw both kick in and generate one regular attack of opportunity from Robilar's (make that two strikes plus potential trip plus potential-potential followup with Double Hit, High Sword Low Axe, and Improved Trip), and one trip attempt made as an AoO from Defensive Throw. At least, that's how I understand it. I agree it's far from intuitive, but by RAW I'm finding no serious flaw. The FAQ is silent, and I know of no other rulings on this matter. If you fluff it the right way, you could say the following: "Combining Karmic Strike/Defensive Throw with Robilar's Gambit is a serious investment into a risky, rarely taught technique. You learn how to invite disaster but be all but assured of devastating retaliation. While your opponent is busy gloating about the easy hit he got in, you strike with lightning swiftness, using the adrenaline rush from the wound you just took. You're using all weapons at your disposal to take him [I]down [/I]at all costs, ignoring the pain for the moment." Remember that a melee attack that "hits" may be envisioned as a lot of scratches or bruises from a quick exchange of multiple blows; a one-two-three combination, the first of which brings the shield down, the second glances off the helmet, and the third bites into the opponent's shoulder; or a quick double slash across one cheek. Similarly, three hits in rapid succession could be described as a clean stab, followed by a twisting of the weapon in the wound, followed by ripping the weapon out with a gush of blood. Long as it's RAW, you can almost always come up with a decent description of what just happened. [/QUOTE]

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