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<blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 6082910" data-attributes="member: 78958">Considered by the build's creator, Caelic.I can imagine the argument to be something like this: attacking a guy who uses Robilar's creates an opportunity for that guy. Hitting a guy who uses Karmic Strike creates an opportunity for that guy. Missing a guy who uses Defensive Throw lets that guy make a free trip attempt which uses up an attack of opportunity for him. These opportunities might be created by the same actions, but they stem from different sources, they're not the same, and they can be taken one after the other, and before resolving the attack that caused them. So whenever you attack that guy, you're basically automatically creating two different opportunities for him (he's well trained enough to exploit two spots you left open at once).On the stacking thing: stacking rules are for numerical bonuses/penalties only, and they don't apply here.I can see DMs being very leery of this rules interpretation, and demanding positive rules support before allowing Robilar's, Karmic Strike and Defensive Throw to work together as outlined here - but that would be as much of a houserule as allowing them without that positive rules support. It's a bit of a grey area IMO. I'd allow this guy's schtick to work, btw, if only for game balance reasons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Empirate, post: 6082910, member: 78958"] Considered by the build's creator, Caelic. I can imagine the argument to be something like this: attacking a guy who uses Robilar's creates an opportunity for that guy. Hitting a guy who uses Karmic Strike creates an opportunity for that guy. Missing a guy who uses Defensive Throw lets that guy make a free trip attempt which uses up an attack of opportunity for him. These opportunities might be created by the same actions, but they stem from different sources, they're not the same, and they can be taken one after the other, and before resolving the attack that caused them. So whenever you attack that guy, you're basically automatically creating two different opportunities for him (he's well trained enough to exploit two spots you left open at once). On the stacking thing: stacking rules are for numerical bonuses/penalties only, and they don't apply here. I can see DMs being very leery of this rules interpretation, and demanding positive rules support before allowing Robilar's, Karmic Strike and Defensive Throw to work together as outlined here - but that would be as much of a houserule as allowing them without that positive rules support. It's a bit of a grey area IMO. I'd allow this guy's schtick to work, btw, if only for game balance reasons. [/QUOTE]

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