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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DMScott" data-source="post: 1238564" data-attributes="member: 11734">I probably didn't phrase it correctly. What I mean is on first read through, it seemed to me that there were some obvious ways to do certain power combos/templates, and also efficient ways to do them... and the two aren't necessarily the same. A player who always looks for the efficient way to do things will end up having more points to throw around than one who does things the obvious way. If you just save one point each off of three PL 10 powers, that's 30 points to toss around - maybe not earth-shattering, but enough that it's worth doing. I play with a group that's somewhat split between players who really get into analyzing the rules and those who just want to write down their character and go, and I remember that as one of the main issues we had with Champions. Hence the association. I suspect we'll end up using the same fix - have a couple of dedicated point shavers design everybody's characters, so they're all getting about the same bang for the points.</blockquote>